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Old 03-08-06, 05:54 AM   #106
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We have contributed atleast 1329238402582409583402 times what black people have contributed to mankind..

And you think cause we wernt previously nomadic tribes with no powerful civilisation and allowed ourselves to be enslaved that we dont deserve a day?

I dont mind cats having their days.. And I agree with most of what you said in your post.. Just that singular part I quoted was extremily ignorant...

How can white people NOT have all of those acheivements when whites are the majority in the world.

and that post is very flawed anyway
the whites that mostly everyone SHOULD be refering to are the aryan white.
Saying all of what you're IS true IF you're counting italians, jews, greek and irish. None of which fit the "blonde hair blue eyes criteria(???)
Aryan whites shows animosity towards italians, jews, greeks and irish because they're not "pure" aryan.
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How can white people NOT have all of those acheivements when whites are the majority in the world.

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Not only the world majority.. We ALSO did not stay as nomadic tribes that let ourselves become slaves soon as a more powerful country invaded us and took over...

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and that post is very flawed anyway
the whites that mostly everyone SHOULD be refering to are the aryan white.
Saying all of what you're IS true IF you're counting italians, jews, greek and irish. None of which fit the "blonde hair blue eyes criteria(???)
Aryan whites shows animosity towards italians, jews, greeks and irish because they're not "pure" aryan.

I dont have blonde hair blue eyes.. But I am white because of my skin pigment. While some white people I mentioned have a more olive colored skin pigment.. They are still essentually white bruz...

I mean.. If a white person went and got a nice tan over summer, are you gonna try and say hes no longer a white person?

There are different types of white people just like their are different types of asians, africans, arabs.........etc

Just so you know...
...There are more things I could say here.. But I'm honna hold back.. Because I dont wanna be a complete asshole..
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Old 03-08-06, 06:09 AM   #108
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So whats the problem with black people supporting equality?!?!
Thats a problem to you?
and yeah, that "tiny ass minority" isnt so tiny. I say out of 10 white people 2 have some type of aryan or anti sematic(???) support/belief,
so, 10,000 whites, 2,000 of them have some sort of animosity.
Now just imagine that number being larger and larger, because there is obviously more than 10,000 whites in the world.
Yall dont need to support them, they have enough people to support themselves!

Did I say I had a problem? Dude stop trying to put words in my mouth just cause you want to win an argument... If you read my posts.. I actually say I respect that aspect of black culture for its unity on a street level..

And btw.........2 out of 10? Your kidding right? Maybe 2 out of 500.. At most...

Its a small world.. But what your trynna say is crazy..
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Old 03-08-06, 06:22 AM   #109
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Not only the world majority.. We ALSO did not stay as nomadic tribes that let ourselves become slaves soon as a more powerful country invaded us and took over...


I dont have blonde hair blue eyes.. But I am white because of my skin pigment. While some white people I mentioned have a more olive colored skin pigment.. They are still essentually white bruz...

I mean.. If a white person went and got a nice tan over summer, are you gonna try and say hes no longer a white person?

There are different types of white people just like their are different types of asians, africans, arabs.........etc

Just so you know...
...There are more things I could say here.. But I'm honna hold back.. Because I dont wanna be a complete asshole..

mexicans, puerto ricans, and cubans are are latin.
But you dont say all latins are very revolutional because what Che Guerva (???) and Castro did for the cubans. You dont say all asians are prone to war because Sun Tzu was chinese and also because the chinese built the great wall of china. Give credit where it's due.
The aryan nation doesnt even accept jews, so why should what the jews accomplished be considered a great step for all whites?
And being nomadic has nothing to do with why the Africans were enslaved. The Celtics and the Scadinavians were also very nomadic. the Vikings were veyr very nomadic matter of fact and they weren't enslaved. (Im aware that the vikings and the scadinavians are the same, btw) Africans werent enslaved because they were nomadic, they were enslaved because we were out smarted. Being out smarted however doesnt make you dumb.
This is going to sound silly, I know, but have you ever seen that 1 movie with John Travolta and the aliens and shit? Where the aliens conquered and enslaved earth in 12 minutes or some shit like that. I dont know the name, but use that movie for example.
Yes the aliens were more advanced than us earthlings, but us as earthlings were still advanced and intelligent enough to know they we wasnt supposed to be slaves and we still faught(???) back and overcame the aliens.
The same thing goes for the Africans, we were intelligent enough to know that we weren't supposed to be slaves.
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Did I say I had a problem? Dude stop trying to put words in my mouth just cause you want to win an argument... If you read my posts.. I actually say I respect that aspect of black culture for its unity on a street level..

And btw.........2 out of 10? Your kidding right? Maybe 2 out of 500.. At most...

Its a small world.. But what your trynna say is crazy..

You said when blacks got together to discuss civil unjust that we were "rantin" and "raving"
That implies something
rather you meant it that way or not.
and 2 out of 500? now THAT is crazy if you think that only 2 out of 500! white people are racist.
thats some of the craziest shit I've EVER heard.
you sayin you take a thousand white people, 1,000 that only 4 of them are going to be racist?
c'mon man, be fa real
Thats just being un realistic TOTALLY
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im bout to be out, Nos
we can prolly finish this conversation in a day or two
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mexicans, puerto ricans, and cubans are are latin.
But you dont say all latins are very revolutional because what Che Guerva (???) and Castro did for the cubans. You dont say all asians are prone to war because Sun Tzu was chinese and also because the chinese built the great wall of china. Give credit where it's due.
The aryan nation doesnt even accept jews, so why should what the jews accomplished be considered a great step for all whites?
And being nomadic has nothing to do with why the Africans were enslaved. The Celtics and the Scadinavians were also very nomadic. the Vikings were veyr very nomadic matter of fact and they weren't enslaved. (Im aware that the vikings and the scadinavians are the same, btw) Africans werent enslaved because they were nomadic, they were enslaved because we were out smarted. Being out smarted however doesnt make you dumb.
This is going to sound silly, I know, but have you ever seen that 1 movie with John Travolta and the aliens and shit? Where the aliens conquered and enslaved earth in 12 minutes or some shit like that. I dont know the name, but use that movie for example.
Yes the aliens were more advanced than us earthlings, but us as earthlings were still advanced and intelligent enough to know they we wasnt supposed to be slaves and we still faught(???) back and overcame the aliens.
The same thing goes for the Africans, we were intelligent enough to know that we weren't supposed to be slaves.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....

1) Vikings were nomadic.. But they were an advanced warring nomadic civilisation. Not hunter and gatherer tribes...

There is a difference..

See man.. Black people were enslaved because they were still in what most would call the stone age... Where the rest of the world had advanced into large complex structured civilisations with constantly advancing technology.. Your people were still roaming tribes that were basically an easy target for anyone looking to make slaves... I'm not saying this to try and prove you wrong or make you look stupid... I'm saying these things because thats simply.......what happened...

Because your people didnt progress past a certain point technologically.. You didnt put up might of a fight to civilisations that had been in the big game for several thousand years...

It wasnt that you were tricked or anything like that.. And ofcourse your people wernt stupid.. You were a spiritual people.. But to an incomming civilised army of people who were lightyears ahead of you technologically.. You looked like savages and animals that could be trained to become servants..

Now I know its not right... But back in those times.. Thats how shit worked... It shows that the world has come a long way since back then..
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You said when blacks got together to discuss civil unjust that we were "rantin" and "raving"
That implies something
rather you meant it that way or not.
and 2 out of 500? now THAT is crazy if you think that only 2 out of 500! white people are racist.
thats some of the craziest shit I've EVER heard.
you sayin you take a thousand white people, 1,000 that only 4 of them are going to be racist?
c'mon man, be fa real
Thats just being un realistic TOTALLY

4 in a 1000?
Yes .. I am saying that..

However, there is a difference between half hearted racists that are annoyed by another race but dont go all out........And full blown racists that make their opinions publically known...

See theres a bit of the first racist in everyone... You'll find that most people will make jokes about other races when their not around.. Just like people will make jokes about cripples and people from other religions when their not around... That type of shit is like.........big fuggen deal..

The real racists are definatly around 4 in a 1000... Dont be fooled by the fact that you will see them more in certain communitys than others and they hang around eachother a lot...
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You dont agree with any of the points I made? Well lets go through them one by one...

The first point was about the carpet baggers. Which is historically correct.. The carpet baggers were gangs of previous black slaves that would break into white peoples homes rob them and kill them and they often got away with murder scott free.. The origional white power movement was there to recognise the fact that the law was doing absolutly nothing to stop black people from retaliating and killing off large amounts of our race and it was set in place not as a symbol of hate. But a symbol of protection of the white race that most rational people would say was not only inevidible.. But nessecary..

So that was point 1. And I dont see how you could dissagree with that being that it is nothing more than historical fact..


That's not a point. That's a result of white people hunting FREED slaves that had set up communities and were killed, raped and ripped out of their homes and kicked off their land that they legally paid for and cultivated and irrigated from the ground up. THAT'S when the line was drawn. All they had to do was simply stop or better still, never start!! Besides, the only white people that were being killed were slave masters, not ordinary poor white folk like the average joe. Once again, only one side of the story, causing a complete disconnect with reality.

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Point two was about how now a days its mainly shit for brains rednecks and hicks that are keeping it alive with hate and loathing of races that come into white populated countries... Dunno how you could dissagree with that.. The only difference is sometimes skinheads will turn that way in jail simply because they need someone to run with for protection...

Wrong again. There's TONS of white collar racists in my neighborhood, are you kidding me?? Man, are you foreal right now?? wow. I should take a picture some day of how my next door neighbor has been terrified of me since the day she found out her neighbors were blacks. BTW, I know she's a racist by the confederate flag her husband used to sport on his liscence plate till he found out his neighbors were blacks. Him and his wife are both realestate agents. And they're just one of COUNTLESS cases I could name locally alone. Racists need jobs too son. Once again, one side of the story causing complete disconnect with reality.
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Point 3........well.. Are you really gonna dissagree with the fact that most white people dont support white power movements? I mean cmon man.. I dont think I even needa go into more detail on that one...


No dispute there. However, you left out where you said "AND most blacks DO support the black power movement" WRONG! I don't know ANY blacks that support "The black power movement" or that are even civil rights activists to any extra degree than enybody else not black. I can probably name..mmm.....5 that I've ever met that were concious like that. Did you really believe what you said was true lmao, I gotta laugh man. Add to that, the "Black Power Movement" is a black EMpowerment movement, not a black OVERpowerment movement like the whites have made theirs. Yet another assumption left to run completely out of control and far stray of fact. Are you seeing why I can't see any enlightenment from your point of view yet? It comes from an extremely limited view point.

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Point 4.... Well I can see how you might dissagree with this due to the fact it might annoy you.. But its more or less usually the case.. We are the majority therefore what have we got to fight for? Most of our struggles arnt with society.. Most of our struggles are with our lack of unity on a street level which is a personal thing... But this doesent mean we all of a sudden needa go out and start big ass movements and have conventions where we rant and rave about what we wanna change... Why should we? We are the majority..I dont mean to piss you off.. But most powerful men in our countries are white... Black people own shit like fashion and pop culture a lot of the time.. But we are essentually the driving force behind our countries... Thats not an opinion, thats fact... Sorry if I'm sounding racist.. Cause I'm far from it.. But I do have a sense of pride for my people... There are a lot of things technologically, philosophically and scientifically especially that white people have brought to the world for the betterment of man kind. We have a right to be proud..


This was actually what I laughed at the hardest, not because you THINK it annoys me (why would it??), but because who's doing the attacking on other people of color all the time? Who's got a war with a thirdworld nation right now? Who's dropping bombs in populated cities that are not even attacking or interested in you? Who has a war on a religion disguised as a war on "terror". For that matter, who needs a "war" for EVERYTHING! Who had their own children as rats in a maze during the vietnam war - WHITE PEOPLE!! They want to dance liek how this race dances, wish they had a complexion like that race over there, could tan like that one, had flair like this race and so on and so on "I wish" becomes "I want" becomes "I need" and when reality hits that that's impossible to live outside of your self "I'm so depressed" "I'm going to kill my self, nobody appreciates me or thinks I'm cute/hot/popular/smart/valuable/whatever". Then you wonder why these kids go bezerk. If you're so in control, why are you so insecure with the rest of the world?? Historically, white man can't feel proud unless he attacks the next man (who had to fight for their basic rights), his wife (who had to fight for their basic rights), or his own kids (who have been drafted to war and had to fight for their lives). Ask Hitler, Bush, Stahlin, Gobechev, Bush again, Clinton, Raegan, Nixon, Roosevelt, Washington, Columbus, Vespucci, Erikson, and unga bunga the first caveman who really felt like somebody when he first learned how to bust shit with a club while others had already developed self sufficient civilizations. It's always been that way son. Luckily, some break the cycle.

But if you really want to entertain your self, write down how many anti-black violent parties there are that are exclusively white. Now think of how many anti-white parties there are that are all black. NONE!! I'm waiting for you to say "The black panthers!!" so I can laugh when I tell you what the black panthers stood and still stand for, instead of what you see and hear on TV. When you're done with that, think of all the white terrorist groups that exist, NOT including the klan, nazis, neo-nazis, etc. Then think of how many mass murderers. How many people that created technology, weapons, a whole INDUSTRY, soley to kill other people. How many cannibals you've ever heard of in modern scociety. Completely psychotic individuals that seem to kill for nothing other than their own sick entertainment.

Now write down how many people of color you can name in the same category.

Now write down how many equal rights, pro-peace, and civil liberty groups you can think of that are primarily (never exclusively) of color.

Now how many exclusively white organizations you can name in the same category. Do the math man.

BUT...Convenient that you didn't mention the plagues, diseases, rapes, STD, murders, massive land theft, slavery and genocide that white people brought as well. There's both sides to every coin, and so far you've either never seen, or never cared to looked at the other side of a single one, and I know you've got a whole change purse full.

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Which brings me to my next point... For black people it is compleatly beneficial to hold meetings where you guys talk about the betterment of your people. Thats your thing and it is a big reason why you guys are so powerful these days in pop culture and shit.. Cause you have a real sense of unity and pulling together during hard times... I really do respect that.. I jus dont think we as white people really need it..


You're joking right? "pulling together" is the #1 obstacle facing black people and communities around the nation. Any black person can tell you that man because their parents told them and now they're old enough to see it them selves. This can't be real, you can not possibly really think that.
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And I dont really see how my points are that invalid or out of touch with reality... Sure society is full of dumb cunts and my views arnt wide spread.. But thats because a lot of people fail to look at the world from an outside perspective... They dont look at all the evidence.. They just see whats in their own lives and base their opinions on live for the moment decisions...

*shrugs*


Heh. Now THAT'S irony.
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I suggest all the narrow minded people who just don't "get it" watch the documentary, "Eyes on the prize." Basically, you all are attempting to re-write history. tsk tsk tsk Don't downplay what happened and continues to happen to blacks in America. The playing field is still lopsided.
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That's not a point. That's a result of white people hunting FREED slaves that had set up communities and were killed, raped and ripped out of their homes and kicked off their land that they legally paid for and cultivated and irrigated from the ground up. THAT'S when the line was drawn. All they had to do was simply stop or better still, never start!! Besides, the only white people that were being killed were slave masters, not ordinary poor white folk like the average joe. Once again, only one side of the story, causing a complete disconnect with reality.


Wrong again. There's TONS of white collar racists in my neighborhood, are you kidding me?? Man, are you foreal right now?? wow. I should take a picture some day of how my next door neighbor has been terrified of me since the day she found out her neighbors were blacks. BTW, I know she's a racist by the confederate flag her husband used to sport on his liscence plate till he found out his neighbors were blacks. Him and his wife are both realestate agents. And they're just one of COUNTLESS cases I could name locally alone. Racists need jobs too son. Once again, one side of the story causing complete disconnect with reality.


No dispute there. However, you left out where you said "AND most blacks DO support the black power movement" WRONG! I don't know ANY blacks that support "The black power movement" or that are even civil rights activists to any extra degree than enybody else not black. I can probably name..mmm.....5 that I've ever met that were concious like that. Did you really believe what you said was true lmao, I gotta laugh man. Add to that, the "Black Power Movement" is a black EMpowerment movement, not a black OVERpowerment movement like the whites have made theirs. Yet another assumption left to run completely out of control and far stray of fact. Are you seeing why I can't see any enlightenment from your point of view yet? It comes from an extremely limited view point.



This was actually what I laughed at the hardest, not because you THINK it annoys me (why would it??), but because who's doing the attacking on other people of color all the time? Who's got a war with a thirdworld nation right now? Who's dropping bombs in populated cities that are not even attacking or interested in you? Who has a war on a religion disguised as a war on "terror". For that matter, who needs a "war" for EVERYTHING! Who had their own children as rats in a maze during the vietnam war - WHITE PEOPLE!! They want to dance liek how this race dances, wish they had a complexion like that race over there, could tan like that one, had flair like this race and so on and so on "I wish" becomes "I want" becomes "I need" and when reality hits that that's impossible to live outside of your self "I'm so depressed" "I'm going to kill my self, nobody appreciates me or thinks I'm cute/hot/popular/smart/valuable/whatever". Then you wonder why these kids go bezerk. If you're so in control, why are you so insecure with the rest of the world?? Historically, white man can't feel proud unless he attacks the next man (who had to fight for their basic rights), his wife (who had to fight for their basic rights), or his own kids (who have been drafted to war and had to fight for their lives). Ask Hitler, Bush, Stahlin, Gobechev, Bush again, Clinton, Raegan, Nixon, Roosevelt, Washington, Columbus, Vespucci, Erikson, and unga bunga the first caveman who really felt like somebody when he first learned how to bust shit with a club while others had already developed self sufficient civilizations. It's always been that way son. Luckily, some break the cycle.

But if you really want to entertain your self, write down how many anti-black violent parties there are that are exclusively white. Now think of how many anti-white parties there are that are all black. NONE!! I'm waiting for you to say "The black panthers!!" so I can laugh when I tell you what the black panthers stood and still stand for, instead of what you see and hear on TV. When you're done with that, think of all the white terrorist groups that exist, NOT including the klan, nazis, neo-nazis, etc. Then think of how many mass murderers. How many people that created technology, weapons, a whole INDUSTRY, soley to kill other people. How many cannibals you've ever heard of in modern scociety. Completely psychotic individuals that seem to kill for nothing other than their own sick entertainment.

Now write down how many people of color you can name in the same category.

Now write down how many equal rights, pro-peace, and civil liberty groups you can think of that are primarily (never exclusively) of color.

Now how many exclusively white organizations you can name in the same category. Do the math man.

BUT...Convenient that you didn't mention the plagues, diseases, rapes, STD, murders, massive land theft, slavery and genocide that white people brought as well. There's both sides to every coin, and so far you've either never seen, or never cared to looked at the other side of a single one, and I know you've got a whole change purse full.



You're joking right? "pulling together" is the #1 obstacle facing black people and communities around the nation. Any black person can tell you that man because their parents told them and now they're old enough to see it them selves. This can't be real, you can not possibly really think that.


Heh. Now THAT'S irony.


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Old 03-08-06, 12:44 PM   #120
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People are simply ignorant and uneducated about this subject.








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yup. That's the difference between theory and experience.
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