I'm not gonna stay on this because it's off topic. This thread is about blaming god for the "bad things" in our lives. I don't see what homosexuality has to do with anything. BUt, no it's not the same as lust. When a man sees something that sexually arouses him, the physiology of his actual erection is beyond his control. Because we are rational beings (or at least we like to think so) we can mentally force ourselves to think about other things. However, the biology of my body is mostly beyond my control. You could put a heat pack on my penis and it'll get hard. That has nothing to do with lust. It's all biological. That's what I'm talking about. And, no, "churches" don't make a big deal about homosexuality. Some homophobic preachers do. For the most part, it's actually avoided. There is a big contigent of people who deal with homosexuality. But, it's taboo to address outside of the usual, "God says it's an abomination." Meanwhile, those who struggle with it continue to struggle with it because people aren't willing to be mature and discuss the issues.

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THAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOU.


And with that homosexuality shit, god wouldnt have you be "born" with something that'll get you to hell. Just like Lk said a murderer could say the same thing. Everything is conditioned in you from life and can be reversed. When I was a kid I used to be attracted to titties more than normal. Now that I've seen alot of them I dont get all jumpy when they come out. If it was horomones that I was born with to like them then surely it would still be with me right now. I dunno if I'm making sense, but eh..

Oh, and for the record, ALL good things come from God.

To the person who said I'm living a "fairy tale," you're ignorant of what the scripture says. I am not making that up. I'm referencing what's clearly stated through scripture. Now, if you don't believe that, don't believe it. But, don't suggest I'm making it up because I'm not. You're just ignorant of what the bible says about it.

And, I don't know why you all are attacking me on this homosexuality issue. I didn't bring it up. NO where did I say "God made me gay." Nowhere did I say, "I was born gay." I said my sexuality is controlled by factors that are MOSTLY beyond my control. Let's stay on topic please.

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Ummm...I don't know what your sexuality is. And, neither does anyone on this board. If you are str8, then I imagine you still are attracted to females. You don't have to "convince" your penis to get hard when you are in sexual situations. It just happens. It's no different with someone who is gay. Gay people aren't being "rebellious" and "forcing" themselves to be attracted to the same sex. That's laughable. Anyone who purports that is an idiot.

OH...And Apexx...you had better believe that plagues could be caused by God. Look at the examples I gave. I said people who specifically cause their own ills need to stop blaming God for them. If I sleep around with 100 dudes unprotected, and develop AIDS, can I really blame God for that? NO.

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Well I think of the world and destiny like dominos. God pushed the 1st domino and shit happened from there. And what is "good" is all oppinion. If we were in the superbowl and I won, you would say "oh this is terrible" while I'm going "OH THANK YOU GOD". Or if someone was about to shoot me and right before he did he had a heart attack. I would say "OH THANK YOU GOD FOR SAVING ME", but meanwhile the killers family would say "oh my god satan killed my baby" and so on.

Don't get "cute" on the "good" is relative B.S. bro. I can guarantee you that your life isn't that difficult. There are people who starve to death in parts of the world. You are sitting here on the i-net, probably fully clothed, living a decent life. Those things are "good". You don't stop to think do you? It doesn't have to be that way. Keep living and you'll see things a little differently because right now, you're taking things for granted it seems.

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kid go eat a dick... ive had so many discussions with tha q on this religion shit and i have schooled him on so much shit its unreal, but he is too ignorant to admit it.

Lmao you're really stupid. I'm not even gonna try to be all politcally correct, you're stupid. Again there are people who PURPOUSLY starve themselves. And if the existance of something worse means it's not bad, then NOTHING IS bad. Including murder, rape, stealing, devil worshipping, racism, and homophobia. Because while you're complaining about that... people are starving.

Thank you. You just said the magic word. You don't BELIEVE IT. So, stop trying to shit on my beliefs simply because I stated them. Thank you. Just because I believe what I believe doesn't make me in a fairy tale.

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What am I complaining about in this thread? Tell me...Because apparently, the topic of this thread goes over your heads. WHat you're talkin about has ZELCH to do with the topic of this thread. And, I didn't bring it up. So, again, enlighten me. What am I complaining about?

Also, the philosophical mumbo jumbo about the good/bad is exactly my point. But, there is a difference between not having "what you want" and not having "anything at all." If someone doesn't have the means to live, that isn't RELATIVELY worse than not having STEAK for dinner. Bro, look someone who's starving in the face and tell them their pain is "imagined."


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Seriously, and as for "schooling" religious debate is just something in a matter of opinion. You dont school people on religious shit, because for all we know, all theories are wrong or all can be right, some can be wrong, and some can be right. We will never know. As for the insult, it shows truly how retarded and uneducated you are. I cant see how you'd do well in any debate it seems like your primary line would be: " omg, tha q you are teh gay, religion is dumn, I can prove it by beig a nUbz0rr"

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