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Old 03-24-06, 01:34 PM   #46
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ummm...i hate to have to break it down to u some more but,
when i said in 5 yrs those experiments could be proven wrong,what i meant was,in 5 yrs they can possibly find out why the body lost those ounces at the time of death,and it could not even be RELATED to what we're talking about....they could be conducting experiments on something totally different and come up with an answer....and then,all the proof u have for ur little theory will be out the window......
sorry hun,but these scientists u are worshiping dont have a cure for cancer,or aids,cant explain many many things ,dont even KNOW what else is out there in the universe,all they can say is that it is constantly expanding and that we dont have the technology to go beyond a certain distance......so until they can prove EVERYTHING to me...i'm going to stay open minded....
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Apexx...that logic is so BAss Ackwards it's not even funny. A "technique" verses "information" are two different things. Studying the bible is often a lesson in history, learning what happened before. In vitro fertilization is a technique that's used for a specific purpose. A person can learn about the history of an event and the context of it to discuss it. But, as with many people on RV, they act as experts on scientific principles, techniques, and theories even though they have a limited education on them. That's the point.

I didn't say you couldn't discuss it. I just said that it is annoying when people discuss things and give misinformation, WRONG information, and flat out BAD information. If they don't know, fine, learn it. If they don't want to learn, then they should shut up. I don't have to have lived during 2000B.c.E. to recount what happened. THat's a moot point because NO ONE who was alive back then is alive now. However, I can learn about that period in time to present a valid and corroborated argument, not just running my mouth like most of the people on this site like to do.


So, again, I don't see your point.



I think you DO see my point champ. Read the bolded statement. Fortunately for me, you contradicted your self once you saw that your original statement "if someone hasn't done it, then they're not qualified to speak on it" isn't true since that's what reading and books are for. that's what words from the wise are for. That's what learning is for. Passing on someone elses experience and knowledge to you, so you don't have to go through the same means to get the info.

If you think I'm making this up, would you like me to quote where you contradict your self and now agree with what I was saying?

Go head. Call my bluff.



I asked you questions that any logical person would find the truth in, and eventually you see that your original statement sounds illogical and your current statement is exactly what I first said.

And some-how by making you walk full circle, I'm ass backwards??
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Old 03-24-06, 01:38 PM   #48
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lol. apexx.. ahh can u let ppl win arguments once in a while? lol.. join a damn debate team hahaha.. this is so fun wen ur bored at work.. man oh man.. rv rules =P
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Old 03-24-06, 01:38 PM   #49
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ummm...i hate to have to break it down to u some more but,
when i said in 5 yrs those experiments could be proven wrong,what i meant was,in 5 yrs they can possibly find out why the body lost those ounces at the time of death,and it could not even be RELATED to what we're talking about....they could be conducting experiments on something totally different and come up with an answer....and then,all the proof u have for ur little theory will be out the window......
sorry hun,but these scientists u are worshiping dont have a cure for cancer,or aids,cant explain many many things ,dont even KNOW what else is out there in the universe,all they can say is that it is constantly expanding and that we dont have the technology to go beyond a certain distance......so until they can prove EVERYTHING to me...i'm going to stay open minded....


Right.


You wake me up when ever this dream of yours comes true in 5 years.

In the mean time, keep making up statements that you thoroughly believe that I said, yet....can't seem to find one single quote at all.
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Old 03-24-06, 01:39 PM   #50
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I know good and well no one is judging someone for having a child and raising it. Women are left with the "evidence" of having had sex. What if men were the one's who got pregnant? How many of us would be walking around with a fat belly?

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I think you DO see my point champ. Read the bolded statement. Fortunately for me, you contradicted your self once you saw that your original statement "if someone hasn't done it, then they're not qualified to speak on it" isn't true since that's what reading and books are for. that's what words from the wise are for. That's what learning is for. Passing on someone elses experience and knowledge to you, so you don't have to go through the same means to get the info.

If you think I'm making this up, would you like me to quote where you contradict your self and now agree with what I was saying?

Go head. Call my bluff.



I asked you questions that any logical person would find the truth in, and eventually you see that your original statement sounds illogical and your current statement is exactly what I first said.

And some-how by making you walk full circle, I'm ass backwards??


DONE IT as in a TECHNIQUE Apexx...I gave one example. I didn't change my tone or my initial assertion. I clarified it for you so you can feel good enough to continue to discuss things you learned on the Discovery Channel.

I'm not insulting you. I'm telling you the truth.

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Old 03-24-06, 01:40 PM   #52
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The experiment listed was put in place to test and see if matter leaves the body after a human dies, which was successfully proven. The hypothesis is if this matter has a conciousness or not, which he's not sure of since he couldn't exactly sit ether down for an interview lol. nahm sayin?


.....this is all u had to say in this entire thread....and again,it does not prove whether there are "ghosts" or not,as neither u or the scientist in question could determine whether the ether that left the body had conciousness or not...............say no more that post speaks for itself and this is precisely what i've been saying all along....
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HEY! discovery channel owns!! dont diss my fav. channel other than history channel!! hey!!! i luv that.. oh yea they talk bout like thigs that can happen like big ass voclanic eruptions, tsunami's that may hit west coast (me) movin 500 mph while being 90 ft high.. OMG!! thats scary as hell! omg if i die.. i luv u guys!! well not relaly..but if i die. I luv u God!! oh yea!!! im so bored
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Old 03-24-06, 01:44 PM   #54
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...i'm out for now i might be back later
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Well in the bibble i've learned from, ghost are not souls that past away.. they are demon,s because when a person die's they just die and stay in their body or something untill judgement day comes.. thats what judgement day is all about.. when God judges all his children to go to heaven or hell.. no human has ever been to heaven or hell yet.. they are jst waiting till Judgment Day comes.. so basiclly.. no human souls can be ghost.. jst demons trying to trick the human to do crazy things, or jst to make the human think crazy or w/e they want u to do lol.. but yea.. wut i learned.. =P
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Old 03-24-06, 01:47 PM   #56
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lol. apexx.. ahh can u let ppl win arguments once in a while? lol.. join a damn debate team hahaha.. this is so fun wen ur bored at work.. man oh man.. rv rules =P



haha, that's the thing man, it's not an argument to me. XYZ is a fact. It's been proven, documented, others decades before us have questioned the validity of it and it's STILL a fact. I'll show someone the process and findings and everything, yet....they still don't want to see it. That's on them. Thats when I start having fun, because really...how could you possibly argue with a fact? That's like someoen saying that plants need to eat food, when reality shows that plants get energy through sunlight, and they'll arguing to the death about it despite the proof in their face.

I'm not surprised. There are still people who believe that the sun revolves around the earth, not the other way around. Dosen't matter what you show them that someone else has discovered. they find a billion reasons why facts are wrong and their theory is right.

To each his own. You know the saying, you can lead a horse to water.....
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Old 03-24-06, 01:47 PM   #57
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OH...for the record...I'm done with this thread as well.

I'll leave the experts on things they've not FORMALLY studied to their business.





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lol. apexx.. ahh can u let ppl win arguments once in a while? lol.. join a damn debate team hahaha.. this is so fun wen ur bored at work.. man oh man.. rv rules =P



Don't gas him, please. It's easy to win arguments when you talk in circles and confuse fact with rhetoric. The fact remains that if you're talking about "science", not too many people on this site have a formal education in it, and yet, EVERYONE is an expert. amazing
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well i dont see it as arguing too.. but alot of them do see it like that.. y do u think i never sound offended or mad wen i give statements back to them.. all cuz i see it as debating.. its so fun to do.. sadly its a habbit i have with my girl.. wish i could stop haha.. but its cool.. still luv her.. oh shizzle y did i even say that?? not even part of the topic hahaha.. man oh man.. this azn is so bored haha
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well i dont see it as arguing too.. but alot of them do see it like that.. y do u think i never sound offended or mad wen i give statements back to them.. all cuz i see it as debating.. its so fun to do.. sadly its a habbit i have with my girl.. wish i could stop haha.. but its cool.. still luv her.. oh shizzle y did i even say that?? not even part of the topic hahaha.. man oh man.. this azn is so bored haha



Actually, it's only fun to debate when the people you're debating with respect valid points and fact. It's not fun to debate with people who blow smoke and cross fact with belief. You can't have it both ways. That's what Apexx does. I've figured out his M.O. It's cool. Do your thing. But, I've pinpointed it exactly. His stance is that everything he holds as "true" should be quantifiable. That's absurd. Basically, ANYTHING, ANYTHING that you hold as "true" is an exercise in faith to some degree. Then, when someone brings in the topic of "belief" his assertion is that it's irrelevant because it can't be proven. This argument stifles the person he's "arguing" with because they don't accept his initial assertion of facts being "quantifiable." Therefore, he creates a loophole that allows him to "win" arguments by default. If he sets the rules to his own argument, then it's impossible to "beat" him. That's an old trick and the reason it's NOT FUN to "debate" with him. Apexx isn't always right.



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