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Old 06-18-06, 03:00 AM   #16
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Well to decide value you would have to have an eternal "better". Who's more important out of these people.... An intellgent homeless person... or an evil idiotic president?

Obviously the evil idiotic president...

He has the ability to reach more people through his power.. Therefore he is obviously doing things on a far larger scale than a homeless person who may only effect a small group of people in his lifetime on a reletive scale.
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Old 06-18-06, 03:02 AM   #17
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I agree that not all people are created equal in a sense. It's a sad reality, but the truth. Many babies are born blind, with skin conditions, birth defects, mental or physical conditions. There is nothing we can do about it. But it depends what you mean by equal... If its within this society, then yes, there are inequities. However if its from an external standpoint, any living beings worth is not quantifiable, and they are all equally "valuable".

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Thats 2 countries.. Neither of which are that good of a place to live....

How many countries does the world have again?

And btw-- I'd prolly save my own just as an experement to see what the world would be like without that guy....

For my own amusement more than anything....


So he is what you would consider an important person in history, but you throw his life away so easily? Obviously his actions werent that important if you are willing to compromise them for your own amusement and curiosity.

An example of how worthless "importance" is, which is what my original post was saying. By the way, the man that wrote it was Siddharta Gautama.
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Old 06-18-06, 03:03 AM   #18
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But the reason why he has such power is because the people exist. The people make him in power. If u take away the people he's still one man. How is he truly superior if the existance of other people are the source of his superiority?
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But the reason why he has such power is because the people exist. The people make him in power. If u take away the people he's still one man. How is he truly superior if the existance of other people are the source of his superiority?

Yeah sure.. But whose ever gonna take away the people?

Thats an un-realistic hypothetical....

Therefore his power will ultimatly remain in the real world because there will always be people here to agree that he is in power.
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Old 06-18-06, 03:11 AM   #20
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I agree that not all people are created equal in a sense. It's a sad reality, but the truth. Many babies are born blind, with skin conditions, birth defects, mental or physical conditions. There is nothing we can do about it. But it depends what you mean by equal... If its within this society, then yes, there are inequities. However if its from an external standpoint, any living beings worth is not quantifiable, and they are all equally "valuable".



So he is what you would consider an important person in history, but you throw his life away so easily? Obviously his actions werent that important if you are willing to compromise them for your own amusement and curiosity.

An example of how worthless "importance" is, which is what my original post was saying. By the way, the man that wrote it was Siddharta Gautama.

He is an important part of our history...

But it would still be interesting to see what would happen if you took out certain important people in our history just for an experement.

I would do that because I dont think on terms of morals over logic, and the science of what would happen if he was taken out of the equasion interests me.
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Old 06-18-06, 03:13 AM   #21
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Yeah sure.. But whose ever gonna take away the people?

Thats an un-realistic hypothetical....

Therefore his power will ultimatly remain in the real world because there will always be people here to agree that he is in power.



Well in my opinion social status doesn't determine value. Seeing how intellegence is rarely rewarded in mainstream society. To me it's just in the eye of the beholder.
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Well in my opinion social status doesn't determine value. Seeing how intellegence is rarely rewarded in mainstream society. To me it's just in the eye of the beholder.

On the contrary..

Intelligence is greatly rewarded in mainstream society, you just dont see that because all the intelligent people are in the background pulling the strings with stupid cunts as their puppets...

Social status is definatly a factor in determining value.. Just not the biggest part..
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Well intellegence itself could almost be opinionated. If a retarded person knew the meaning of life and why we're here, is he better than someone who knows everything about everything else instead of that? I dunno im in a weird mood.
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I think this is just a very subjective argument...

Everyones different.. And everyone has different values in life... So neither of us are really wrong, were just..............different..........
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