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07-17-06, 02:11 AM

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Yo man.. 50 cent is that real hip hop..

You better recognise...

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07-17-06, 02:11 AM

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Lemme rephrase...

Who the fuck on RV thinks 50 Cent does Hip Hop?

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07-17-06, 02:14 AM

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lmao @ yall talkin about 50 Cent and crunk like its the same thing...

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07-17-06, 02:17 AM

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hold up, 50 Cent is wack NOW

but he's from Queenz liek me(unlike Nas, nigga never comes through to say whats up) but his 1st mixtapes, Guess who's back, n Get rich or die try'n were sick, he was spit'n wat we felt, which was wat its like bein from here, now hes jus wack son

07-17-06, 02:18 AM

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^ mad dudes in Queenz on the Game DVD said they dont never see 50, and if they did he would be layed down...

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07-17-06, 02:19 AM

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No way man..

50 cent is the best emcee in the game....

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07-17-06, 02:23 AM

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The thing i love about hip hop as a general culture,its united youth worlwide.
Even in its pop culture form, its a highly expressive art form, that is common within youth worldwide.

Its some what a connection and a peice of unity,when expressed properly.

07-17-06, 07:03 AM

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mic i read your first post and laughed.

first of all, i get radio play on american underground stations, ive been to american to check out the actual scene in some cities n shit, so dont like i dont know what im talking about.

ive done my homework on how to work the business side of things and i know if i push myself properly and promote everything effectively i could make a decent living off music.

hip hop isnt what you are telling us to stop hating, hip hop is a lifestyle, its graffiti, break dancing, beatboxing, DJ'n, MC'n.... and most of america these days do not realise that at all, and most americans fail to realise the history of hip hop and it offends me how many americans dont even know who the founder of hip hop was.

the UK scene is raw, and gets so much love from the greats of hip hop because it is exactly what hip hop started out as in america.... kool herc, mos def, krsone, and so many more have come and performed in the UK at deal real, and then come back just to relax and take part as a FAN, without any form of bodyguard e.t.c, they love it here and say the american scene has been ruined by corporations and rappers being blinded by dollar signs.

its not that i hate the mainstream, but the mainstream isnt real, i like a few mainstream heads but the majority of them are generic and bore the living shit out of me with their fake talk n synth beats.

why do people think underground is depressing music???? dilated peoples are depressing??? mos def is depressing??? krs one is depressing???? roots are depressing??? come on now, stop being so pedantic.

07-17-06, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mic Young

are you serious????

get rich or die tryin was horrible... P.I.M.P???? fuck outta here.;

guess whos back, well ill just say 50 was better than ever on that, BUT he still got outshined by sum sick beats and most of his featuring artists outshined him aswell.

just for saying 50 is nice at all proves how dumb u are.

07-17-06, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by leady

i know alot of u allready agree with what im about to say(or atleast to an extent) but this is for those who are too dumb to realise it.

hip hop was created as expression of self, it was not created to drop catchy hooks to get millions of 13 year old girls to sing along with.

you need to realise the difference between rap music(50 cent shit like that) and hip hop(krs one, dilated peoples, roots e.t.c).

you also need to realise we can say anything we want about anybody(mainstream or underground) why??? cos its personal opinion, but not only that, saying we cant talk about mainstream rappers is false... we cant say anything cos theyre rich???? fame and fortune means nothing in the REAL world of hip hop(im talkin real hip hop not hip POP). anybody can make a song with 1 syllable rhymes with generic gun talk with no metaphores or similies or any imagination or effort put into the lyrics.... but again that isnt what hip hop is about, and shit like that is an insult to the culture.

money has turned hip hop into something it shouldnt be, im not saying the money in hip hop is a bad thing, but people now are using money to drive them instead of passion(eminem said that drove him more after his first couple albums did than the passion did).

but understand, just cos we arent rich and famous does not mean we cant say anything about them. EVERYBODY is a critique and has the right to voice their opinion.

fuck g-unit, fuck nelly, fuck mike jones, fuck ying yang twins, fuck master p, fuck ja rule, fuck any other trash mainstream pop rapper. they all suck, and got successe through nothing but clever marketing and gullable teenage wannabes that were made to beleive they are the greatest through clever marketing.

when these niggas first came out they was hard as hell.GRoDT is a classic, Nelly's first album was tight, he wasnt rappin about the same shit he rap about now. Master P was the fuckin shit 10 years ago, he aint doin shit now though. I wouldnt have even brought that nigga up. and Ja Rule's Vetti Vinni Vicci or whatever its called was tight.

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07-17-06, 11:05 AM

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ja's first album was ok i spose, not summin id part money for, g-unit as far as im concerned allways been weak, never liked anything by them, master p, same goes for him.

07-17-06, 11:36 AM

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soo...if you liked 50 when he was underground liek most people, but you think he's wack now, then you youreslf fit into the EXACT SAME CATEGORY of FUCK the mainstream. Dudes just aren't the fuckin same man. I don't give a fuck if you can sing on a hook if your shit is WACK, like anybody else.

blah blah blah, etc etc, mic young, you're a fuckin mongoloid.

you should wear a foam helmet

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07-17-06, 01:05 PM

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Actually hip hop was created around Clubby Party Tracks...Its music......the main meaning of music too me is just somthin too dance too.....yaddamean

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^^nah man that's def not true. Afrika Bambaata created "hip hop" and the term "hip hop" before there was even "hip hop music" and we were still spittin over disco beats (since there were no "hip hop beats") with lyrics from the voice of the people, people in the streets that wanted to make a difference and create change.

Sugar Hill Gang outta Englewood NJ did the first "clubby" type hip hop track with rappers delight, years after "hip hop" had already come into the world. And even Rappers Delight wasn't a "club track" it was a track making light of situations anyoen from the hood could relate to, lol like bad food and the shits

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07-17-06, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx

EXACTLY!!!!!!

i bet alot of people also dont realise how much of an influence the punk era had on hip hop at the time it was around.

if you look back at the history of hip hop, look how alot of them dressed and you will see how similar it was to the punk dress of that day.

the entire hip hop culture got its influences from several genres of music rangeing from soul, jazz, blues, as mentioned also disco aswell.

music in general has and allways will be a form of expression, even rave music, the people who make it make it to fit the mood they are in at that time.

and people say im dumb and cant have a sensible debate and hear i am schooling some of these americans on a culture started in their country haha.

big up to apexx for being one of the few heads with actual knowledge.

im guessing you remember the days of black sheep???? they dropped some classic ish.

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