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Old 07-27-06, 06:54 PM   #16
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How is this a bad thing happening to black people?

I see a bad thing happening to poor people.........Who happen to be black most of the time...



Thats the way the United States Government thinks.......

that "just happens to be." think only works in some cases.........this isn't one of them becuase i'm sure that most of the black people in DC are poor....and there are reasons for that....we all know them so i'm not going into a big descussion on that becuase thats getting off topic
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Old 07-27-06, 06:54 PM   #17
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Being poor is no excuse for killing ppl.

I was starving @ a point in my life. I ate McDonald's every night with my mom and we lived in a shitty apartment complex filled with Bloods and Crips.

I played basketball with B's and C's next to the dumpster in a parking lot a few yards from my house...... a street sign being the basket.

Did I resort to robbing, killing, raping, or even JOINING either of the gangs?

Come on. Thats some real bullshit, Q. For real.

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At the time, we couldn't use credit cards, checks (I believe), etc. @ the time, either. We were starving.
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Old 07-27-06, 06:55 PM   #18
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and lol...

I'll never forget when, one night in S.E., I was over my man Jay's crib. We walked up to the chinese store, got some food, and got back to his porch. I was like, "Imma eat mine out here." Then, all of a sudden we heard, "BLAAAAAAAT BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAT"...I got my ass up like "Then again, I wouldn't mind eatin in the house."


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Being poor is no excuse for killing ppl.

I was starving @ a point in my life. I ate McDonald's every night with my mom and we lived in a shitty apartment complex filled with Bloods and Crips.

I played basketball with B's and C's next to the dumpster in a parking lot a few yards from my house...... a street sign being the basket.

Did I resort to robbing, killing, raping, or even JOINING either of the gangs?

Come on. Thats some real bullshit, Q. For real.



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I didn't say anything about being poor justifies crime.


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Old 07-27-06, 06:59 PM   #19
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PEople don't see it like that. It's like if america bombs iraq, the victims are iraqis. But there WERE soem americans there when they were attacked. Are u gonna say "well its not really iraqis, just some people who happened to live in iraq, it isnt all muslims and middle eastern people." Come on now you're just splitting hairs.

This is bad shit happening to 'americans'..


Listen man.. What I'm seeing here through the information provided..

Is that there are murders happening in a poor area all the time, then the minute a murder happens in a rich area, the government acts on it.

HEY WAIT A MINUTE, most people in that poor area are black!


WELL FUCK!

..........Its mother fucking racism....

This has absolutly nothing to do with the fact that poor people are a fucking slug to the government that has to operate on a loss in that sector because a lot of these 'poor' people just leech off their government and are a direct source to a large amount of crime on all levels..

This is compleatly 100% beyond doubt............a race issue.

The government hates black people....

Ok man.. "whatever helps you sleep at night"
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Old 07-27-06, 07:02 PM   #20
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*predicts your response*

OMG NOS your such a racist! OMG FUCK.. IT IS A RACE ISSUE... HOLY SHIT... blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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Come on now are you fuckin kidding me? You have ALL these intellegent theories about life, you see through the governments bullshit on EVERY OTHER AREA, but the second it comes to racial shit all of a sudden the government has absolutely no input? What is this too evil to imagine that the government might just not care about the people they havent cared about since the civilization even started? Do you have THAT much pride in your race that you'll ignore any wrong doing that might be done to anoter race which could benefit you?
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Come on now are you fuckin kidding me? You have ALL these intellegent theories about life, you see through the governments bullshit on EVERY OTHER AREA, but the second it comes to racial shit all of a sudden the government has absolutely no input? What is this too evil to imagine that the government might just not care about the people they havent cared about since the civilization even started? Do you have THAT much pride in your race that you'll ignore any wrong doing that might be done to anoter race which could benefit you?

Man look..

I only know what Q has said in this thread.. It really looks like cats are labeling poverty issues as a race thing.

Cops, are racist fucks.. I wasnt surprised at all to see that guy made a stupid statement like that.

But a lot of this racist finger pointing looks like shit talking from people who dont really understand how a government works...
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"A" government doesn't mimik every other one. "This" government has proven time and time and time again that they don't give a FUCK about what happens to people in these areas. Obviously most of us live in these areas and people KNOW THAT. Wtf when you come to the hood are you gonna expect to see more white people than blacks? Come on now, believe me just because you choose to not accept it happening doesnt mean it isnt. I'm not a drug dealer, I've never killed anyone, and I'm not in a gang. WHAT DO I HAVE TO GAIN from thinking the government did this. I would LOVE for it to be different so I can feel as if everyone was equal and no one had an upper hand over me. The way you act is as if black people WANT to be discriminated against whic his the the most fuckin retarded belief ive ever heard. THe only reason people say that shit is to ease their own mind. Look I know white people are poor, and I know you know I know white people are poor. But kill somebody in a trailor park or a small town and see how fast the murder is investigated. Please stop the denial, it really makes the situation a shitload worse for people here when people pretend our problems arent aimed at us. It's like constantly getting shot at, but the people were shooting "in your direction" and not at you. You just happen to keep being in the way.
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"A" government doesn't mimik every other one. "This" government has proven time and time and time again that they don't give a FUCK about what happens to people in these areas. Obviously most of us live in these areas and people KNOW THAT. Wtf when you come to the hood are you gonna expect to see more white people than blacks? Come on now, believe me just because you choose to not accept it happening doesnt mean it isnt. I'm not a drug dealer, I've never killed anyone, and I'm not in a gang. WHAT DO I HAVE TO GAIN from thinking the government did this. I would LOVE for it to be different so I can feel as if everyone was equal and no one had an upper hand over me. The way you act is as if black people WANT to be discriminated against whic his the the most fuckin retarded belief ive ever heard. THe only reason people say that shit is to ease their own mind. Look I know white people are poor, and I know you know I know white people are poor. But kill somebody in a trailor park or a small town and see how fast the murder is investigated. Please stop the denial, it really makes the situation a shitload worse for people here when people pretend our problems arent aimed at us. It's like constantly getting shot at, but the people were shooting "in your direction" and not at you. You just happen to keep being in the way.




i think a lot of people on this site needs to read what indeph just posted about 3 or 4 times.....because thats truth beyond truth right there
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Old 07-27-06, 07:21 PM   #25
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"A" government doesn't mimik every other one. "This" government has proven time and time and time again that they don't give a FUCK about what happens to people in these areas. Obviously most of us live in these areas and people KNOW THAT. Wtf when you come to the hood are you gonna expect to see more white people than blacks? Come on now, believe me just because you choose to not accept it happening doesnt mean it isnt. I'm not a drug dealer, I've never killed anyone, and I'm not in a gang. WHAT DO I HAVE TO GAIN from thinking the government did this. I would LOVE for it to be different so I can feel as if everyone was equal and no one had an upper hand over me. The way you act is as if black people WANT to be discriminated against whic his the the most fuckin retarded belief ive ever heard. THe only reason people say that shit is to ease their own mind. Look I know white people are poor, and I know you know I know white people are poor. But kill somebody in a trailor park or a small town and see how fast the murder is investigated. Please stop the denial, it really makes the situation a shitload worse for people here when people pretend our problems arent aimed at us. It's like constantly getting shot at, but the people were shooting "in your direction" and not at you. You just happen to keep being in the way.

You made two distinct points in this post.

"This" government has proven time and time and time again that they don't give a FUCK about what happens to people in these areas.

Which is my point exactly, you even made a point about knowing white people live in these areas too... heh... And


But kill somebody in a trailor park or a small town and see how fast the murder is investigated.

Which is a cop thing.. I know their racists..

I could really say something on that, but I dont wanna stick up for cops in any way shape or form... So I wont..
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damn... i just had an interview in VA today... if i take the job i'd be working in the Reston area... i really don't want to bring my kids out there if shyt is going on like that... i mean... the pay is good and all but who wants to deal with getting shot and killed on the way to or from work?... we all know how expensive it is to live in certain areas in DC especially when you got a family... c'mon... a 1 bedroom apt in Reston is a gee?!!! and then people are forced to move to lower income, higher crime ridden areas to survive if they got families... if you don't have 2 supplemental incomes within your family you might as well mark a target on ya chest and lable yaself a victim of either the crime... or just plain old racist propaganda... damn... this is really starting to influence my decision about moving out there for this job.
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This is bad shit happening to 'americans'..


Listen man.. What I'm seeing here through the information provided..

Is that there are murders happening in a poor area all the time, then the minute a murder happens in a rich area, the government acts on it.

HEY WAIT A MINUTE, most people in that poor area are black!


WELL FUCK!

..........Its mother fucking racism....

This has absolutly nothing to do with the fact that poor people are a fucking slug to the government
that has to operate on a loss in that sector because a lot of these 'poor' people just leech off their government and are a direct source to a large amount of crime on all levels..

This is compleatly 100% beyond doubt............a race issue.

The government hates black people....

Ok man.. "whatever helps you sleep at night"

i see what you are saying nos... but at the same time i see what everyone else is trying to convey.... a lot of these black people are "forced " into these situations.... don't ever believe that the majority of the poor people in these areas actually WANT to be poor or live the way they do.... let's say a black person had a decent job and basically had all the cred in the world to get promoted... in our society... most blacks experience a stage where the company just won't promote them even though they have been with a company forever and have more than enough experince and capabilities to do the job.... now... more times than none... someone else of a different race or someone with less qualifications gets the job.... now ya got a pissed off black person who no longer wants to work with that company... it affects work performance... now one of two things are gonna happen... he'll get fired.... or he'll quit for being underappreciated.... here's where the delimma kicks into overdrive... the same person still has bills to pay... same person tries for other jobs and the question comes up... "why'd you leave your last job"... you can't say you were fired cuz that leads to more questions that will make it even harder for you to get the job... you can't trash the last company because the new company will think the issue was you and that you'll do the same to them the first time an issue arises.... and you can't say you just quit because that doesn't show stability....

i mean, sure you can stick it out at a dead end job and hope ya boss changes his mind... but realistically.... would you stay at a job where you know you'll never get beyond a certain point in ya career?

this is what happens with a lot of us (black) folks... we're not all lazy and the majority of us actually do want to better our lives.... this ain't like the old days... and realistically... the poor pay more taxes than the rich (referring to an earlier post)and i base that off the strength that the poor drastically outnumber the rich... a rich dude don't feel that tax crunch that a poor person feels... if you making a 6 figure income and the gov taxes you... you still got a pretty penny to sit on depending on ya lifestyle... but that poor person making like 20,000 a year?... how da hell is he supposed to live after taxes if he got a family... and a lot of folks make even less than that... you do the math

but i do agree that it's a poor thing as well as a race thing.... the gov don't care about anyone who ain't got money already and they can't stand any minority who ain't willing to be a yes man or a puppet like Condoleeza Rice... i saw her on tv the other day and i coulda swore i saw strings and Bush on the balcony making her dance!
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i see what you are saying nos... but at the same time i see what everyone else is trying to convey.... a lot of these black people are "forced " into these situations.... don't ever believe that the majority of the poor people in these areas actually WANT to be poor or live the way they do.... let's say a black person had a decent job and basically had all the cred in the world to get promoted... in our society... most blacks experience a stage where the company just won't promote them even though they have been with a company forever and have more than enough experince and capabilities to do the job.... now... more times than none... someone else of a different race or someone with less qualifications gets the job.... now ya got a pissed off black person who no longer wants to work with that company... it affects work performance... now one of two things are gonna happen... he'll get fired.... or he'll quit for being underappreciated.... here's where the delimma kicks into overdrive... the same person still has bills to pay... same person tries for other jobs and the question comes up... "why'd you leave your last job"... you can't say you were fired cuz that leads to more questions that will make it even harder for you to get the job... you can't trash the last company because the new company will think the issue was you and that you'll do the same to them the first time an issue arises.... and you can't say you just quit because that doesn't show stability....

i mean, sure you can stick it out at a dead end job and hope ya boss changes his mind... but realistically.... would you stay at a job where you know you'll never get beyond a certain point in ya career?

this is what happens with a lot of us (black) folks... we're not all lazy and the majority of us actually do want to better our lives.... this ain't like the old days... and realistically... the poor pay more taxes than the rich (referring to an earlier post)and i base that off the strength that the poor drastically outnumber the rich... a rich dude don't feel that tax crunch that a poor person feels... if you making a 6 figure income and the gov taxes you... you still got a pretty penny to sit on depending on ya lifestyle... but that poor person making like 20,000 a year?... how da hell is he supposed to live after taxes if he got a family... and a lot of folks make even less than that... you do the math

but i do agree that it's a poor thing as well as a race thing.... the gov don't care about anyone who ain't got money already and they can't stand any minority who ain't willing to be a yes man or a puppet like Condoleeza Rice... i saw her on tv the other day and i coulda swore i saw strings and Bush on the balcony making her dance!

Yo man.. I agree 100%.. The stuff your talking about jobs, thats racism.. Straight up... But I aint arguing against that in any of my posts.. And to be honest, the government cant really be blamed for what goes on in corperations, because corperations fund your government and basically control it to a large extent. Big business owners? Thats the commitees of 100's that sponsor your country more or less. Esp the media corps.

My tip has nothing to do with 'why' people are poor. More that in this situation, I feel everyones real quick to pull the race card and act like the government hates blacks because action is more likly to be taken in areas populated with the rich.

I dont dismiss any of the underlying race issues that create the situations where minoritys come off with higher percentages of poverty than the majority (reletive only to the amount of people in minoritys). I'm just sensitive to the fact that people often like to pull the race card and rag on the government when its not always their fault.

This situation specifically sounds far more concearned with class than a lot of people in this thread would like to admit.
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damn... i just had an interview in VA today... if i take the job i'd be working in the Reston area... i really don't want to bring my kids out there if shyt is going on like that... i mean... the pay is good and all but who wants to deal with getting shot and killed on the way to or from work?... we all know how expensive it is to live in certain areas in DC especially when you got a family... c'mon... a 1 bedroom apt in Reston is a gee?!!! and then people are forced to move to lower income, higher crime ridden areas to survive if they got families... if you don't have 2 supplemental incomes within your family you might as well mark a target on ya chest and lable yaself a victim of either the crime... or just plain old racist propaganda... damn... this is really starting to influence my decision about moving out there for this job.



Don't let it influence yoiu bro. There is crime in every city. DC is a beautiful place. I just wanted to point out that discrepancy in action.








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all i've seen thus far is herndon and it don't seem like a crime ridden area or a bad place at all....

i've heard a few remarks about PG but nothing drastic... it's better than some areas....worse than others...

until your post i didn't even know there was a crime wave.... it was your post that made me start to really rethink what i was gonna do in the first place... 100 murders in 6 months... in the dc area alone?.... that's crazy

but omma do my own research on dc and the surrounding areas and make a decision from there

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yo, Potbellies at Dulles airport got one of the best sandwiches i ever had in an airport....ever!!!!! and it's affordable.... rare for anything at an airport... werd!
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