what whats goin????? termunto is gay????? im confused

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What is termunto man, seriously... -_-

Of all the mispellings of my name that one is the wierdest.

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terumuto, termunto same diff

lol i aint tryin ta diss u but umm was what nos was talkin bout bullshit
or was he dissing u cuz u actually are gay??

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And this is why its pointless..

I dont believe anything either.. BUT-- Where you guys are going wrong is not realising that youve been put in this reality for a reason and all the mental conditioning your so hell bent in neglecting are actually simply parts of this world that you have chosen to reject and preach prejudice towards.

I always feel like telling zen buddhists to get a grip.

They themselves want people to think a certain way aswell. Really, if you never became influenced by that shit, wouldnt you be more phased with the every day on goings in the world and take everything a lot more seriously?

And that would create a different perception of life for you. Unhindered by the zen mindframe.

It is a diversion, because its own views contradict its meaning. Nobody should pay it all that much attention beyond understanding its simple values.

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Hes not gay man hes got a girlfriend..

I'm talking shit on his views...

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"Put" into this world by what? And for what reason?

Its not really preaching against the conditioning, its preaching for seeing through it. You dont blame people for things they cant control, and generally people cant control anything.

And yeah I would actually be feeling a lot ######## a lot more of the time.

Man like I said before, you really need to look into it to know what im on about. What you're proposing is that I would be happier if I DIDNT see through a lot of delusions that cause meaningless suffering, and that zen hinders perception of life... It doesnt make sense.

Did you know students of zen get scolded for becoming attached to zen? If you become attached to detachment, you've lost the plot just as much as if you were still attached to worldly things. Thats why they refer to it as non-attachment, instead of detachment. There is no extremes, yet there is always fluctuation of extremes to keep the balance, but no attachment or detachment to these things or anything.

Man the kind of life YOU live could equally be considered a diversion. So how does it follow that zen is a diversion from a diversion that teaches you not to get diverted... ?

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Less happier?

Or unconditioned by zen teachings?

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More miserable.

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Is that what you believe life without zen is like...

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Who said zen was the only path to a similar state of mind?

It uses the same sutras as other kinds of buddhism, and some sects of hinduism.

Many of the teachings of jesus offer the same kinds of philosophy, but less practical instruction on how to fulfill them (except for things like the ten commandments).

There are a lot of philosophies that lead to the same sort of idea.

Even some peoples' natural perception is similar.

There are many different paths up the same mountain to the same peak. All that's required is persistence and will. Choose your method, and stay with it... I chose zen, because it facilitates any teaching, ancient or new, western or eastern, christian or buddhist, personal or widespread, and uses it to assist in the eratication of suffering and the cultivation of compassion, IF it is effective. Also, I think that these paths may end at different points, and only a few will lead all the way to the peak, which is samadhi, satori, nirvana, enlightenment... Whatever you want to call it. To my knowledge, zen, chan, mahayana and theravada buddhism, hinduism and yoga are the paths that have the necessary tools needed to attain the "highest" state of mind. There may be more, I dont know, my knowledge is limited. Zen suits my personality, so I practice it.

There are, of course, members of any group or religion that have a warped understanding... So it is necessary to not trust and regard as ultimate any sect, text, or teaching. This is a principle of zen, they emphasize growth through personal experience and understanding, perhaps guided by a teacher or text, but non-attachment to the guide or practice, but practice with utter sincerity and determination.

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lol oh good lmao i was gon say if he's gay im shocked
i was like wtf now theres 2 gay people on rv??
lol but n/m

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Why do you attach yourself to this label or denomination?

A school of thought that doesent believe in schools of thought is a paradoxal concept that shouldnt even bother existing in this reality.

Like it or not, zen is a complete boring too inadiquate to stand for something philosophy that can teach people nothing. It doesent improve your life, and being a smart person leads you to a lot of these realisations anyway whether their true or not is another matter.

I would slap you for being too attached to zen and demeaning your life.

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I would take your slap and feel sorry for you.

I choose to follow my solid results and genuine experience that have come from Zen practice, rather than the words of somebody who has niether practiced anything like it or studied it.

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Cause you prefer to be conditioned by zen than other sources...

Good for you...

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