fa shizzle my nizzle

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"shizzle nizzle.."..

.."do you know what that means.."..

.."..er, no....".

..."..you were right to run when lost in gutter Harlem..."..

"...that's what it meant?! Shut up!.."..

"...*shakes head*..yes, i will.."....


How it spreads...

i meant that in the snoopesque sense of the word

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Thanks for clearing up my statements, I do not see how he did not understand my position or arguements. Opey has laid it down a plain as day, now it's up to you all to consider both sides of the equation. Opey is correct when he stated that the majority of the news we base our positions on are liberially biased. The university has become liberally biased, the elite academics are too, on the far left. Most average households are blinded to this, we are being force feed this far left agenda in our homes, in our schools and now in our churches (not all but many have become liberal on more than just social issue's).

Lets just reduce this arguemnt to it's simplest terms, for someone uninformed (as you said I was) I sure know when I am being manipulated and force feed erroneous information. Unilke yourself, who has blinders on, or simply a bandwagon liberal.

Reduced to simplistic terms:

Ok the left wing believes the worlds biggest threat is global warming and other enviornmental issue's.

(I am a part of the scientific community and I agree this is a concern, but not the largest threat to our world today. Also the scientific community is split on this topic, many disagree!)


The right wing feels that the largest threat to mankind today is exactly the same threat 100 years ago, 1000 years ago, and has been the same throughout history. That threat is the one I am concerned with, "human evil".

Now human evil has been mankinds largest and most visible threat as far as history goes. I do not understand why the left has a disassociation with evil. They do not admit to evil, perhaps because it's a contradicition to most of thier ideologies. Not all left wingers but far more than a few tend to associate ignorance with a person of faith. To acknowledge evil in the world one would have to associate good or God. Now there is no way the ACLU, a liberal orinazation is going to allow that. The ACLU is on a quest to remove God and or Religion from public view. Not just on the rotunda of Roy's Rock, but from the hearts and mind of the public. They start early by contaminating our children with their one sided teaching in the public school systems. Not all states but in california, the left coast ,it is so visable. The left believes in bigger government, involved in every social aspect of life. Now that is right along the lines of communisim, why can't more people see that? I feel it's because many do not care, do not understand, or have been lead astray by the agenda of the left wing.

Going back to the largest threat as seen by the left and the right, I hold human evil to be the real threat. If we allow a shift in power in the middle east, our existance will be nullified, human evil will prevail, and global warming will be far less of an issue. Don't get me wrong I care about the enviornement and have dedicated much time and work on enviornmental issues. I just do not understand how it is our most critical issue. Stablity of the middle east, and eleminating our dependency on Suadia Arabia, are far more critical.

If you have been to the west bank, spoke with isreali officials, seen with your own eye's the devistations inflicted upon those citizens of Isreal, then how can you argue against my points? I contradict myself? I am sorry but the only one contradicting thierself is you my friend. I have been solid on my stance in every discussion on this board or the hundreds of others I contribute to. I have seen many war zones and atrocites I wish never to have witnessed. I take both side of the equation and apply logic, not emotion, before I take a side or voice an opinion. I do not comment on something I have not researched endlessly, or have studied aggresively. I am not one sided or closed minded, I wieght each and every issue ethically and morally, I do not rely on the media, or do I trust everything printed in the news papers. I am a researcher by nature and career, I do not listen to only one side of any arguement. As you have claimed I am ignoring half the issue at hand. Well exactly what half of the issue are you refereing to? Care to explain, because your post was easily contradicted, and my points were obvious to others, but not you. I wonder why? Please enlighten me, what half did I ignore?

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^^man you have a hell of a lot of time on your hands.
You should do topicals, you'd be good at them

^ I wish I had time on my hands, I am so busy in every aspect of my life, career, family, politics, friends, band, and every now and then I sleep. I remain active and keep my self current on many issues, as a parent I have to be involved. So I do not have the time you may think, I just manage the time I do have well.

What's the topicals about?

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^^Ok bounce, I agree with you 100% on the fact that human evil is the number 1 threat. But tell me, how is it possible to deal with that threat????Human evil, as you have said has been, is, and always will be the biggest threat in the world, because, we do not live in a utopia. No society in the world lives in a utopia, and until a utopia is created, there will always be human evil. And at the same time, human evil is the reason that a utopia will never be maintained/created.

^^lol gotta work on my word choice, but what do you think?

the only thing we can do is what we are now doing. there is no right answer. there will always be human evil. we have to keep fighting it tho. sometimes human evil prevails and sometimes it doesnt. we still have an obligation to keep that struggle going.

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qoute


"all a person can do is what they can with what they have, dispite human greed and evil, in the time they are alotted"


ties in with opey


" war isnt the first step, its the last, and most dreded" Dwight D Eisenhauer

^^^ for all of those who think the US is out for a good fight

^ truley the words of a wise man @ opey


The battle has been on going as far as recorded history, it is always going to be an issue. There is no completly right or wrong way to address the issue, but to ignore it, now that 's where the problems come into place. If we just sit back in our lazy chairs and watch football, oblivious to the mounting tensions and threats to humanity, then we have failed. Not only as a nation, but as a people! We can not afford to fail the people of this country or any country in this aspect. We can not allow those nations, organizations, or people to go unchecked. We need to make an agressive stand against human evil. I know people will argue our involvement is just as evil, but with this type of 'war' comes trade offs. We will never have a utopia, but does that justify the abuse and mistreatment of people because this is not a perfect world. I feel it is the responsiblity of the strongest to protect those in need. We are in a better position than most countries, so I feel it's a responsiblity of this country. It is a sworn duty of every administration to uphold and protect the people's freedom rights and interests. Against every possible threat and advisary, by direct or indirect means. Iraq is a classic example of indirect means. Most see it as greed for oil, but if you look deeper into it, winning independence from the Sultans in Saudi, protects our people in more ways than one. I too feel the oil was an issue, but from a well planned tacticle stand point. Sure freeing a people was good and just, but creating an Iraq where the people can prosper and at the same time disolve some of the dependencies we have on Saudi resorces, it's pure genius. Once the Iraqi economy and infulstructure is stabalized we will have a friendly government at the helms. One in which the people can prosper from, not just the old regime. We have an alternative source in which to buy our oil from, we then no longer need to play by the rules of Saudi Arabia. Which in turn will prove to be a heavy blow to the terrorist operations in that nation. We can move forward without our right arms tied behind our backs, and fight this battle against human evil with a new footing. It's all a trade off, but you must consider both sides..

Much respect to all...

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Bounce Religion, Politics and sometimes Sports are all moot points, we're all entitled to our opinions and most of us keep them. Opey im involved cuz I stand by my beliefs and I voice them in there as well, one thing I definetly agree with bounce on is da respect, but its good that we talk bout this shit even if we think each other is wrong....Much respect to all

Bounce, you are my idol, as should more americans take piece of mind from your words, america has gone and forgot about being people as a whole and making progress and advacing everyday to make life better, but people would rather worry about themselves then the well-being of a fellow countrymen, or rather a person. All people see is what the press wants them too, and by their assumptions, making assumptions like the ones made here about iraq and every conflict are plain ignorance and stupidity, people need to reilize that they dont know whats going on and what are the options, people need to stand up, even if they disagree with our leader, for our country and respect and honor his/their disicions. Materialism is taking over the people of the united states, snd if it countinues our great nation will crumble, as did others such as Romans, Byzintines, Arabs, Great Britain, all of those were once great and powerful kingdoms, countrys, empires. They all fell because people only cared for themslefs, and not for echother...


..resp..

Aimed @ emotion

^ You're right to an extent, but many are unwilling to listen to both sides. Most care to push their foundationless ideas around without commiting to debate or discusion. As you can see I am willing to discuss, and I do have an open mind. It's just sad that so many people are being fooled into thier stance. If you present a good enough arguement then I would be the first to admit my I was wrong. I have been wrong in the past, when I was myself had the liberal wool pulled over my eye's. I too once felt passionate for the left, but then I grew up and actually studied, researched and gathered information, which has open my eye's to the world today. I only said your misstatement of facts were wrong, I never said your opinion was wrong. Just founded on misrepresentation that's all. I respect you opinion as much as everyone else's, I just want the debate to be factual. Many democrates have agreed with my arguements, but still get a bad rap because of thier parties affliation with those on the far left. I respect waht the democratic party stood for a life time ago, but today it has been inundated with the ideology of the far left. I mean communism has proved to work in a small community but for a nation, we have all witnessed the collapse of communist regimes. I repect the ideology behind it, but in today's world it just does not work. I do feel the far left with its big governemnt and social interests are approaching that of communisim. I know it's exagerated a bit, but none the less that is the direction if we allow it.

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What ever happened to the American pride our fore fathers fought and died for. What ever happened to believing in something so strongly you'd die for it. If it wasn't for those brave souls who unselfishly gave thier life for thier nations our freedoms would be non existant, and I am not just talking about here in the US... Once again the worlds most precious resource is our youth, we must protect that resource at all costs, your's or mine.... American or Iraqi, it does not matter, our youth deserve a world enviornment where they are free to live learn and prosper.

God bless our youth....