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YEAH OKAY WELL NOW YOU KNOW YOUR PPUL-R <LIKE THE SPELLING


WELL IM ALMOST AS PPUL-R AS YOU

i aint ppul-r, but other than that, once again no comment...

like bounce said earlier, about those who died unselfishly for the freedoms we take forgranted today, why arent they remebered? why dont we stand up for the rights and freedoms we have, even tho at the moment their is no major threat (us people who use the press for information)?


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any one gunna answer that???

I don't see how Machiavelli relates to this...

In fact The Prince has nothing to do with this

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Bounce, your an intellegent man, and i know the topic of the price does not fit with this thread, but if you look deeper into the piece within the main message of the writing, it does infact shed light on the topic of this thread, what does america mean to you, and what would you do to preserve it. I suggest re-reading the piece Bounce, i think you will inderstand my meaning.



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America has us brainwashed, we are not free, especially black folks. Look....I not here to make this racial. but check it....

If you say fuck the police, do you not get a beat down/and or jail time. But hey We have the freedom of speech...right?

The government is free to do whatever they want, we are not. They can lie to us, but if you lie to the court, they will take your freedom away.

They say it's wrong to kill, but we just destroyed a smaller country for nothing

Hitler, used the same tactics, he said the countries he conquered were a threat. When he conquered too many we had to stop him.

They brain wash us, they say yeah your free, you can do anything go anywhere anytime, and that's bullshit. Everysince 9/11, our "freedom" has been severly comprimised. They can do anything they want to you, if they suspect you are a terrorist. Tap your phone, raid your house, pull you over, tear your car up. Just like the mob, the government has a hand in everything.
Alcohol, was illegal peopel went to jail, and died in prohibition. Now it's legal, so those peoples lives were ruined for nothin. Now Weed is illegal, and the gov't has a business plan that if they do legalize it, they will control it. Yet weed is not addictive and doesn't ruin people s lives such as alcohol abuse.

The job market is kaput, but the rich are getting richer, while the poor get shitted on. Funny how SEC of defense Rumfields, defunct construction company, go the first Billion dollar contract for construction in Iraq.

Canada is a free'er country than us, I mean look at their gov't. They have free health care! I mean we're the richest country and our health care just doubled. If my girl get's in an accident today (God Forbid), her hospital bills will plung her into a life long debt, she can never repay. Because her insurance jumped from 186 a month to 525! Thats about half her monthly gross. and it's INSURANCE meaning that dough is for nothing if she doesn't go to the doctor. THANKS BUSH!

Legend you know I don't hate, but please leave the US! (then come talk about our non existant freedoms) Now Canada is a great country, I do like it, but if it did not share a border with the US, it would have a new flag, like IHOP has pancakes...^ Now that is word!!!!

Please don't bring that weak ass arguement in here, it's the same one everyone uses, it's a fucken bastardized force-feed liberal-misconception. The distribution of wealth in this country is directly proportional to Educated in this country. The left is on a mission to disolve the middle class in this country, what does that remind you of? You want to talk intellectually, then please let's analize things from both perspectives..


Move to europe and recieve your free health care, or go to canada, since when is it the responsibility of a Government to provide health care, get a life, a respectable career and your health care will not be a concern. Please people don't you understand bigger government means less privacy and freedom, where were you kids durring history class or the fucken cold war?


WTF?????????????????????????????????/

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^^And the right wing is working for the middle class?^^

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I would say, the right wing is the middle class, now are they beign represented in the political arena today, barely. Like I have always said, I do not support everything the current administration is doing, but I see it aa a much smaller threat to family values and security than any other party of influence. The republican need to pull thier heads out of their ass and start worry about something other than elections, they need to stand for something again. I mean right now they are wiling to trade off votes over policy, look at the mess in california. There were two qualified Republican canadites in the running, but the party is willing to back a lesser canidate in Arnold, just to secure the office. You know what I rather cast my vote for someone and their policy and lose, than back someone just because they can win... So yes politics today have me in a rage!!!!!!!!!

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*the first time ive ever disagreed with bounce*

i agree that legend has no right playing the bullshit racial card, but a lot of what he is saying is very true.

If you say fuck the police, do you not get a beat down/and or jail time. But hey We have the freedom of speech...right?
^^^this is very true. our freedom of speech has gotten smaller and smaller. but it is still one of the biggest freedoms we have.

The government is free to do whatever they want, we are not. They can lie to us, but if you lie to the court, they will take your freedom away.
^^^this is 100% accurate. if you disagree then you can hit me up and i will give you personal accounts of how I have gotten ass fucked by the system. If you don't agree with this then your head is up your ass.

They say it's wrong to kill, but we just destroyed a smaller country for nothing

Hitler, used the same tactics, he said the countries he conquered were a threat. When he conquered too many we had to stop him.
^^^stop watching the news. you are being brainwashed. we are not conquering anything. its called liberation. when a new government is built for them, they will be in charge of it. not us. we do not own Iraq. and an evil dictator like Hitler is exactly wut we are fighting.

They brain wash us, they say yeah your free, you can do anything go anywhere anytime, and that's bullshit. Everysince 9/11, our "freedom" has been severly comprimised. They can do anything they want to you, if they suspect you are a terrorist. Tap your phone, raid your house, pull you over, tear your car up. Just like the mob, the government has a hand in everything.
Alcohol, was illegal peopel went to jail, and died in prohibition. Now it's legal, so those peoples lives were ruined for nothin. Now Weed is illegal, and the gov't has a business plan that if they do legalize it, they will control it. Yet weed is not addictive and doesn't ruin people s lives such as alcohol abuse.
^^^this is all so true. but it's not just after 9/11. the police have way too much power when it comes to investigation. they get away with criminal actions with the support of the court system. again if you dont believe this I will give you personal accounts. and america gets at its most hypocritical point when it comes to drugs.

The job market is kaput, but the rich are getting richer, while the poor get shitted on. Funny how SEC of defense Rumfields, defunct construction company, go the first Billion dollar contract for construction in Iraq.
^^^this is again a very true and valid point. i have worked personally with people struggling because of how we treat our poverty stricken people like shit. we give them little chance to ever succeed. there is so much more we could do for them but don't. our system doesnt help the truly poor. our system helps the lazy assholes that learn how to milk the system for every dime they can get. we act like we care about other country's poverty more than we care about our own. I am a person that devotes a lot of time to service and before you witness this first hand you cannot comment.

Canada is a free'er country than us, I mean look at their gov't. They have free health care! I mean we're the richest country and our health care just doubled. If my girl get's in an accident today (God Forbid), her hospital bills will plung her into a life long debt, she can never repay. Because her insurance jumped from 186 a month to 525! Thats about half her monthly gross. and it's INSURANCE meaning that dough is for nothing if she doesn't go to the doctor. THANKS BUSH!
^^^our health care is shit but not because of bush. people need to stop blaming bush for everything. do you honestly think Gore couldve done a better job??

bounce it is everyones responsibility to ensure that we provide health care. this area should not be a huge business like everything else in our country. I cannot afford healthcare and have no coverage right now. I am a student with no money. If I get sick I will probably die. here's why. I am a dependent under my parents. They have healthcare but I'm not covered because im over 18. I have thousands of dollars in legal bills from getting shafted by the court system. I have no car because i was shafted by the court system. My savings was taken from getting shafted by the court system. My small business has crumbled from getting shafted by the court system. I can't get a decent job because I am being charged with a felony crime and it appears that I have a felony on my record. I also can't get a loan for this reason. So now I am forced to work for minimum wage at a shit job to pay for my legal expenses and other bills. as soon as i get my paycheck 100% goes toward bills. I can't afford to go to school full time so I'm not qualified to recieve medical insurance under my parents. And because i am a dependant under my parents who are upper middle class I do not qualify for any government programs to help me. so wut are my options? leave home and live on the streets so if i one day by some crazy miracle have a residence i will be allowed to recieve health benefits? or i can say screw paying legal bills and i will certainly got to prison for many years for something I absolutely did NOT do. DO I deserve this? NO! did i put myself in this situation? NO!!!!!!!!! am i doing my best to succeed?? YES!! why should I be responsible that if I get sick I wont be able to afford health care because the government has formed a huge business out of it instead of providing help for its citizens. health care isnt supposed to be a business!!! For u to insinuate that this is my problem and dont deserve health care is WRONG!!!! put yourself in my shoes. and remember that there are tons of people in this country in way worse situations.

also, for u to tell someone to go to another country is completely wrong. he is practicing his freedom of speech in a constructive way. this country needs all the criticism it can get because even though we are the best this world has to offer it is still not acceptable.

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^^ okay let's get anal[ytical] (lol) wit this^^^

I agree with alot of stuff your saying, but I've come to the realization that...Societies archaic structure does not work. I really think it's a remix of communism.

Look at it like this education means next to nothing, unless you’re studying Law, or Medicine, something that really requires you to know what your doing.

I don't know if you noticed but, a big chunk of the work force is missing. What happened to their Education, that shit doesn't matter? I remember a guy called into a radio show, and said "last year, I was making $100,000 @ worldcom, now I'm driving a truck for $9.25hr, and I gotta baby on the way". Now where exactly does his degree fit in? To deliver his child, the hospital will charge $5,000. Where is he gonna get that money, if he doesn’t have insurance?
Corporations, those are the only people who are free to do what they want. It’s the large institutions and their money who shape this country! Look at ENRON, they took employees money, and invested it, and lost peoples whole retirement money. And their was question whether or not they should go to jail or not. I would got to jail if I stole a car worth $500, they stole over $500 mil and their was a question? You know why, cause they financially back politicians who have the same views, so if prosecuted, they might not have a check for them come time for the Champaign
Let’s take one of the largest commercial institutions COLLEGE!
It starts out when your parents tell you to go to school and get a good career, and raise family and be wealthy, right? But in reality, the universities and colleges make a lot of money, along with other corporations. Next time you go to a campus, look at all the commercialized shit. They got bullshit classes that are “requirements”, for you to pass. They’re making money whether you pass or fail! They convince you, that you’ll be nothing if you don’t graduate, so that fear is what drives you. I went to college to be a architect, until my professors said we would come out making $9hr, to start and only people who are partners make big money, and you have to be chosen and OLD for that to happen. So after that I kinda lost my drive. My guy finished with a degree in business, back in 2001, it took him a year to find a job, and yes they started him @ $9hr at a bank. He spent all that time, and he just now is getting his first apt, and I’m on my 3rd in 6 years

Most millionaires today, don’t have the schooling deemed necessary for “success”, because they know its bullshit and a big waste of time and money. I know a guy who sold a bullshit Hip-hop newsletter e-mail service to a major company for $500K, and a position w/the company. What about the “DOT COM’ERS”?
So if the “distribution of wealth in this country is directly proportional to [the] Educated in this country”. Poor people will never have a chance at wealth, because they can’t afford to send people to college. Thus supporting my statement, “the rich get richer and the poor get poorer”. That’s how I fail to see your freedoms, because society is based on shit that doesn’t apply to everybody. You might say “poor people get up and get a job and you can be successful”, it’s not true. A lot of people work 2 jobs, with no insurance, and barely making ends meet. While somewhere some rich fuck who is a “consultant”, lights up a $100 bill to be funny, when actually, that’s a weeks pay to a lot of people.

is that directed at me?? because i agreed with you..

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