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Old 12-04-03, 07:14 PM   #106
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^ Lol

But I'm With Axe On This One.....
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Old 12-04-03, 07:16 PM   #107
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So he chose to trip out on drugs...fine....

but the officers are trained to realize when a guy is tripped out and are trained to know the proper procedures to take in order to bring the suspect in.
Just because it was his choice to take the drugs doesn't warrant a police beating.....

Due to his choice to taking the drugs, his mind was not functioning correctly.....the officers should have seen this and approached the man more carefully. And Lord knows what happened during the time the camera was off, those officers could have been provoking him. He could have been showing signs of aggression. But once shit started building up, that is when the camera was turned back on. That's when we are introduced to the man punching the one officer in the mouth. My question is as to what provoked him to take that initial punch. Was it his entire fault? I mean these officers know he is tripped up, if someone blinked too fast that guy could have went off.

But the people in the restaurant said he walked in there prior to the incident and was just dancing around and happy and didn't bother anyone.

Unfortunately, the only people who were close enough to provide an adequate testimony as to what happened during the time the camera was off are the officers. That is tainted right away.

By the way, the man's death went down as a homicide. Doesn't mean murder but it was described as homicide and the officers are suspended. At least some action was taken.

Excessive force was still used. The minute that cop paused and then continued to beat the downed man.....that is when any justifiable reason of force was thrown out of the window.
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Old 12-04-03, 07:20 PM   #108
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In this case they should have emobolized him in another way, if you can do it to a 1000 pound bear, you can do it in this case..


I'm not a small clean cut school boy looking mexican, so every time I have any confratation with cops I fear for my life...
LOL... Dude, It's A Bear, How You Gonna Start Comparin A Bear To A Human? Humans Have The Ability To Reason... We Know What We're Doing... Most Bear Incidents... They're Not Even Attackin... They're Up A Tree... And Are Immobilized With Tranqualizers And Nets... So You Want Humans To Shot Other Humans With Tranqualizers And Capture Em With Nets? I Doubt That Will Happen.

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I assaulted 3 men over the course of the night.
I was on my way home when I was pulled over.
While being explained why, an officer began to shove me, at which point I ended up laying him out. At that point Backup was arriving. Soon I found myself being beaten by 4 cops with nightsticks. This beating lasted the better part of 5 minutes at which point I was coughing up blood. Turns out I had minor internal bleeding and severely bruised ribs.


From that point on I give the receiving end of a plice beating the benefit of the doubt. I believe the police are in the wrong until overwhelming evidence is shown that they acted appropriately. Which in this case is not given.
You Must've Done Something To Provoke The Officer to Start Shoving You And You're Just Not Sayin It... And Then He Shoved You... So You Layed Him Out? That's Why You Got Beat On. You Expect To Knock A Cop Out And For Them To Ask You For Your Hands So They Can Handcuff You? Get Real.
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Old 12-04-03, 07:23 PM   #109
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According to the laws they are sworn to uphold they should have just cuffed me.
I threw one punch...
Knocked the cop on his ass.

And suddenly I get beat on for 5 minutes by 4 cops....
With no resistence...

How is that remotely just?

And I didnt even reach for the clubs... I spent the entire time covered up.
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Old 12-04-03, 07:26 PM   #110
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According to the laws they are sworn to uphold they should have just cuffed me.
I threw one punch...
Knocked the cop on his ass.

And suddenly I get beat on for 5 minutes by 4 cops....
With no resistence...

How is that remotely just?

And I didnt even reach for the clubs... I spent the entire time covered up.
How Are They Supposed To Cuff You If You Lil Hands Are Busy Punching Police Officers?
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Old 12-04-03, 07:28 PM   #111
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I punched one cop...

Then my hands went directly onto my car...

Then to my ribs...

Then to my head when I was face down on the pavement
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Old 12-04-03, 07:31 PM   #112
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Golden Rule... Never Put Your Hands On A Cop... They're Human Too.
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Old 12-04-03, 07:32 PM   #113
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It doesnt give 4 people the right to assualt you for 5 mintues...
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Old 12-04-03, 07:33 PM   #114
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^^word up...some cops beat your ass up to look tuff...
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Old 12-04-03, 07:35 PM   #115
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It doesnt give 4 people the right to assualt you for 5 mintues...
I Think You're Exaggerating The "5 Minutes" And Also... I Believe This Story That You Got Beat Up As Much As Your, "I Went To Prison Story" So I'm Done Debating.
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Old 12-04-03, 07:40 PM   #116
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I never went to prison...

I was in county...

And the situation was a good five minutes...
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Old 12-04-03, 07:51 PM   #117
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If he got hit in the knees by the night stick, say he didn't die from his health condition, he'd be maimed for life.


"maimed for life" or "life" ?

Not a hard choice for me personally...
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Old 12-04-03, 08:15 PM   #118
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Golden Rule... Never Put Your Hands On A Cop... They're Human Too.



WTF they are just cops, not Gods, not super-men, not any different from you and I. I know it's stupid to start shit with them on duty, but if you are on the recieving end of a cops abuse, are you supposed to let it happen? Just because the dudes a cop! Fuck that, if it were just two regular joe's, and one confronted the other in a hostile and threating manner, should the one not doing anything just let the other dude beat on him? I am making a gerneralazation here, I know this case is diiferent, but your golden rule sucks. What about that poor hatian dude in NYC, he got anally invaded by those nights sticks, was he just supposed to let them violate him like that. Not all cops are criminals, but when you act like one and wear the badge then you desrve what ever the perp drops on ya. Cops in general have a chip on thier shoulder, it comes with the teritory, but in no way does the badge require you give into thier every whim. Hell no, if that were the case we'd be living in a police state and we do not! If you assualt a police officer who is out of line no judge in this country is going to convict you of that. Sometimes they are out of line! I can testify to that!
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Old 12-05-03, 03:53 AM   #119
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finally some people with the same views!
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WTF they are just cops, not Gods, not super-men, not any different from you and I. I know it's stupid to start shit with them on duty, but if you are on the recieving end of a cops abuse, are you supposed to let it happen? Just because the dudes a cop! Fuck that, if it were just two regular joe's, and one confronted the other in a hostile and threating manner, should the one not doing anything just let the other dude beat on him? I am making a gerneralazation here, I know this case is diiferent, but your golden rule sucks. What about that poor hatian dude in NYC, he got anally invaded by those nights sticks, was he just supposed to let them violate him like that. Not all cops are criminals, but when you act like one and wear the badge then you desrve what ever the perp drops on ya. Cops in general have a chip on thier shoulder, it comes with the teritory, but in no way does the badge require you give into thier every whim. Hell no, if that were the case we'd be living in a police state and we do not! If you assualt a police officer who is out of line no judge in this country is going to convict you of that. Sometimes they are out of line! I can testify to that!


Fuck the Police

But nah really....they have to do a job....regardless if its always "correct"....But really if you expect to jus do anything to a cop then your kidding yourslef b/c they are above the law and untill someone cathes them doing somethin they shouldnt then they can really do what they want
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