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Old 02-21-05, 03:44 PM   #1
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Well....what was said earlier about proving or disproving is right. We don't have enough facts, that's why the Bible tells us to have faith. In order to believe and trust in God, you have to have faith. So in a world of lies, deciets, corruption, and unsure thinking, that's where faith will play in.

I hope I'm right. All you daily Bible readers correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, you're exactly right. God can't just push away the sky and be like "Hey, guys, here I am! Do you believe in me now?" I mean technically he could but the whole religion is based on faith. If when we die, we are proven wrong, I still think it's much better living as a non-believer and coming to find out YOU'RE wrong.
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Old 02-22-05, 12:37 AM   #2
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Yeah, you're exactly right. God can't just push away the sky and be like "Hey, guys, here I am! Do you believe in me now?" I mean technically he could but the whole religion is based on faith. If when we die, we are proven wrong, I still think it's much better living as a non-believer and coming to find out YOU'RE wrong.


Ill find some more on those 2 gospels later..

But dont you think thats a little "convenient"? A religion based on faith... You have to believe something that cant be proved. I could just as easily pull some shifty shit and forge a dope scripture and be like "hmm this scripture says OMB is god and you have to give him money or you'll turn inside out, yo, if you dont believe it ya doomed, if you do, WHEN you die you'll be hella saved"
How would people prove me wrong? Its based on faith... exactly like somebody saying "jesus is your saviour, believe in him and after death you will be saved and have eternal life." HMMM after death? nobody can confirm it cos dead people are.. well... dead... etc. etc.
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Old 02-21-05, 03:42 PM   #3
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Some people are scared to believe there is a God because they hate the fact that THEY aren't in total control of their lives.

And OMB, i'd appreciate if you showed me about these 2 other gospels. kthnxbye <3
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People have some good views, I'm in sort of the same position as OMB I guess.

Props on this everyone.
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Old 02-22-05, 09:51 AM   #5
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Exactly.

The Bible was created by man though, and I don't even think half the christians I know truly realise that. Because It is not the wor dof God, It's the word of The early Church, therefore, a bias document. And that is what Christianity is built on.
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Old 02-22-05, 07:15 PM   #6
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Actually it is the word of God written by man. And was NOT created by the early church, lol. It was a little while after Jesus died, not sure of the time but not any later than 200 A.D. I would think.

As for O.M.B. that whole money thing was the Catholic church back in the old days. Has nothing to do with present day Christianity and the Christianity BEFORE the Catholic church. And nothing really needs to be confirmed. Take RV as an example. Before the KORV everyone was pissed because I said I was the best on RV. That was my faith. I believed I was and stood for it. Then I won the tourny and PROVED I was the best on RV because I beat someone, who beat someone and basically proved myself ABOVE almost all of RV in one swing. But no, after I won, and my beliefs were proven, everyone comes with their if's, and's and but's and still don't want to believe it. I'm not gunna switch it up to context of Jesus and God and all that because it should be pretty obvious. But the main idea is there.
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Old 02-22-05, 08:10 PM   #7
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actually the bible was written over a period of about 1000 years
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shut up foo. I was just trying to say that the people didn't write it to make people give them their money.
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but a religion based on faith, i think thats the only way a religion can truly work with mass corruption, needless killing and mass destruction....look at the anarchy in the world today, its bullshit, when you believe in somethin/someone that you know for certain is real, theres not much hope, because at some point its goin to die, and when that happens, thats whole basis in which you believe in will crumble also........so believing in something that is based upon historical texts and stories, i think, makes a little more sense, because then you'll have that faith that it will always be there....just as long as you believe...haha, i dunno, just wanted to make the last part a little flashy, but i stand by what i think....(im not really a profound believer in anything, but thats the way i look at it)wird
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