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Old 06-30-05, 05:20 PM   #2
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werd n wat u said to me change england to ireland


You're not from America. That's the only thing that is revelant to my point.
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Old 06-30-05, 05:22 PM   #3
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I'd like to see somebody who is an American argue with me.

All you motherfuckers who don't have this problem. Ireland? Yeah, I doubt they'll be over run by Mexicans soon. Canda? Same thing.

Don't fucking tell me its alright and that I'm being a dumbass when you're not facing the problem every fucking day. Don't fucking talk to me if you can't relate to this shit.
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Old 06-30-05, 05:32 PM   #5
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fag we hav millions of asians over runnin here but i dont mind they livin there lives n im livin my life there not hurtin me n im not hurtin them so i hav no problem wit them being here


Are they there legally or illegally? Is your country paying millions for the asians to learn how to speak english? Are the majority of your jails filled with illegal asians? Do the asians pay taxes or just take the free ride?

I need to know the answers to those questions before I say anything else.
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Old 06-30-05, 05:27 PM   #6
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ok if a immagrint comes to this country im all for it he or she will pay taxes and should have to work no welfare as for illegally it is real simple.if you have someone move in with you and yall working toghther bills will get paied and shit will run smooth but how bout if someone breaks into your house and just makes a bed in your room?then what?the guy who breaks in is a illegal immigrant and he should be shot period.
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Old 06-30-05, 05:29 PM   #7
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ok if a immagrint comes to this country im all for it he or she will pay taxes and should have to work no welfare as for illegally it is real simple.if you have someone move in with you and yall working toghther bills will get paied and shit will run smooth but how bout if someone breaks into your house and just makes a bed in your room?then what?the guy who breaks in is a illegal immigrant and he should be shot period.


Agreed. Immigrants who are legal are fine. I could give a shit less about them.

But the people who exploit this country are fucking pissing me off.
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Old 06-30-05, 05:38 PM   #9
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How was that nicely put?

I could totally own that post, but my point in this thread is getting rid of illegal immigrants. But, I can pretty much put this debate down as a victory if the best thing you have to say back is saying that we are killing people in Iraq. That has no revelance to the point I'm making right now.
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Old 06-30-05, 06:38 PM   #11
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i highly doubt that the reason they are coming into the states illeagaly is because they cant "pay" for a passport...

but anyways...
we arent arguing about iraq or whats going on over there, so stop trying to bring that into this thread...

and i have a problem with 5mil going to them every year
thats 5mil that could be used to do better things like improve the education system in general, not to teach kids how to speak english so that they can live here...
keep in mind we're paying this 5mil to people who dont even deserve it, we're basically rewarding them for illeagaly entering our country...
and also keep in mind that its only 5mil from arizona...theres a hell of a lot more pouring in from other states as well...
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Old 06-30-05, 06:58 PM   #13
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but 1 of my main points is that that 5 mil wud not be goin into anythin that helps yous if it wasnt being spent on them u know n it is cause of shit like they cant afford a passport if u didnt realize these are people in poverty coming across your border to try n make a better life for themselves if they werent then y wud they becomin for the fun of it???? nah dont think so n if youve never been outside your country then u might not know that passports n visas cost a lot of money n if these people are in poverty u think they can afford it n alse to get a passport or visa u need a home address n alot of people comin across the border are livin on the streets cause htey that poor so hoe u expect thta shit to get to them


i have been out of the country
ive actually spent a signifigant amount of time in mexico itself...
and i know that there may not be very many things there that they can do to make their living conditions better, but the fact of the matter is is that there are things they can do...
just coming into the states really does not help anybody
rarely, RARELY do you see any immigrant actually succeed here in the states...
most of em will end up working for rich people doing chores and such, or working at resteraunts cooking/serving meals, which all pay minimum wage, or somewhere near...
my point is that coming into the US illeagally really does not help anyone, and it especially doesnt help them...

and our attempt to help them should not be necessary considering they shouldnt be here in the first place...
and the 5mil we use on them could go to things that help our economy, it could go to plenty of things...
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Old 06-30-05, 06:43 PM   #14
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FUCK THE SPURS

and i rather have mexicans then asians tho.. i think... hmm..

Mexicans, get rather lazy.. never mind i rather have asians.. they work and work hard..

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Old 06-30-05, 06:46 PM   #15
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Efecx, I don't know if you read correctly. That 5 mil is in Arizona alone. Our mayor just signed a deal to send 80 mil total to "english-learning" students.

And what the fuck at you guys bringing the war into this? My views on the war are clearly different then yours, but that has no revelance to illegal immigrants in the United States.

You guys are just getting merked all over this thread, so just stop posting. Lmao @ a dude from Ireland and a dude from Canada trying to argue with me that the immigration issue in the UNITED STATES isn't getting out of control. Just shut the fuck up. You guys don't know what you're talking about.
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