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Old 11-28-05, 04:39 AM   #1
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Eminem is sooo overrated it's not funny...The man is talented, yes. However, so is Busta Rhymes. And, I've long said that they were about equally talented. Busta is mad creative and has an amazing flow. The only reason EM is spoken so highly of is because he's white. PERIOD.


Again, if EM were black, he's be your average run-of-the-mill rapper.
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Old 11-28-05, 11:15 AM   #2
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Eminem is sooo overrated it's not funny...The man is talented, yes. However, so is Busta Rhymes. And, I've long said that they were about equally talented. Busta is mad creative and has an amazing flow. The only reason EM is spoken so highly of is because he's white. PERIOD.


Again, if EM were black, he's be your average run-of-the-mill rapper.



word... same thing goes with Tiger Woods in golf. Yes the man is a awesoem golg player, but there are alot of other good golf players, just as good as him, the only reason he is talked about so much, cause hes Black..
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Old 08-25-06, 03:10 AM   #3
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word... same thing goes with Tiger Woods in golf. Yes the man is a awesoem golg player, but there are alot of other good golf players, just as good as him, the only reason he is talked about so much, cause hes Black..


this is just retarded...tiger words has one more pro tours than any golfer in hsitory..he's won like..90 pga's
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Old 11-28-05, 01:00 PM   #4
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Im a massive fan of Em but Encore was weak too unfocused like his last few albums. His first album is still his best just raw beats and uncut lyrical content.
Hes in my top 5 but i think Chino XL is nicer than Em lyrically forget abouyt sales theres a lot of rappers out there nicer than Em lyrically but they dont get the exposure that he does. If you think Em is nice go listen to Chino, Ras Kass and Vakill there just as nice if not nicer.
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eminem is d best!!! go white trash
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Old 08-25-06, 03:07 AM   #7
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black thought is better...
lyrically...canibus is better...way the fuck better
common is better
soup from jurassic 5 is better


to say eminem has the greatest lyrics ever heard is retarded....extrmemely retarded...eminem spits mediocre to good multies..with rarely having a standout line...

all the artists i just named...get quoted the fuck out of em....eminem is a good lyricist..but it's his delivery and style that make it appealing..not his above average lyrics
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Old 08-25-06, 03:12 AM   #8
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black thought is better...
lyrically...canibus is better...way the fuck better
common is better
soup from jurassic 5 is better


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black thought is better...
lyrically...canibus is better...way the fuck better
common is better
soup from jurassic 5 is better


to say eminem has the greatest lyrics ever heard is retarded....extrmemely retarded...eminem spits mediocre to good multies..with rarely having a standout line...

all the artists i just named...get quoted the fuck out of em....eminem is a good lyricist..but it's his delivery and style that make it appealing..not his above average lyrics

i never heard soup from jurassic 5 so i cant comment, but common is NOWHERE near eminem, mos def and kweli are better then common...i listen to all of them and have all their albums and shit and imo common is a person i listen to when im bored or in 'his' mood i gotta be in the mood to listen to common, its not like that with eminem cuz he captures almost all of the moods imo, when im mad,sad,happy etc. i can listen to different em songs...common seems like a sissy hippie, not to say hes not dope...but he's just on that love shit all the time and his wordplay is too old school for this generation, chino xl shits on common as far as that goes he shits on anybody when it comes to wordplay imo, black thought is dope but you said eminem's delivery carry above his lyrics...black thought's delivery is ASS sometimes, canibus in his prime is better then eminem in lyrics but in songs i'd give it to em cuz he has a wide variety of moods and songs, canibus in his prime just constantly spit angry raps all the time, which is dope but theres no variety when it comes to being the best overall
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old skool Eminem iz my 2nd fav rapper. dope ass multies n he got that kinda gangsta shit, u know, makes me wanna git a gun n start shootin innocent men, women and children. shits illy. werd
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common is NOWHERE near eminem, mos def and kweli are better then common...i listen to all of them and have all their albums and shit and imo common is a person i listen to when im bored or in 'his' mood i gotta be in the mood to listen to common, its not like that with eminem cuz he captures almost all of the moods imo, when im mad,sad,happy etc. i can listen to different em songs...common seems like a sissy hippie, not to say hes not dope...but he's just on that love shit all the time and his wordplay is too old school for this generation, chino xl shits on common as far as that goes he shits on anybody when it comes to wordplay imo,




this might be the stupidest thing i've ever read..first thing is first..when it comes to lyrical ability..mos def isn't even in the picture...talib kweli is a good lyricist..but even he doesn't compare to the greatest of lyricists..i love black star..mos and talib seperate..but not for their lyricism..for different reasons...and how the fuck can you say you have all of commons albums...and than turn around and say.."He SEEMS like a sissy hippie"...first off...if you have all his albums..you either think he is..or you don't...he doesn't seem like anything....secondly...i know for a fact you're lying of you turn and say that common is on that love shit all the time..i'm pretty sure all you do is hear common on the radio...and see specific songs...and just decided that he seems like a sissy hippie.....i gurantee you eminem raps more about love than common...it's just rooted in anger...sorry if i'd rather listen to something i can relate too 90% of the time...than i can relate to 20% of the time...i don't have a daughter..i don't have a wife that cheats on me named kim...i don't feel a need to boast about my prejudices...and i don't feel like commiting various acts of violence that would obviously lead to sadistic murder on anyone.......


and i can guarantee you..common, and canibus both...have way more thought provoking songs, than eminem will ever have...

and whoever said canibus writes poetry and doesn't rap..is a fucking idiot..you could make a general ass statement like that to just about everyone...i want you to find the definition of rap..and definition of poetry...and show me how you can justify saying he doesn't rap..and don't ever say some stupid shit like..a lot of his fans have to look shit up to fully understand what he's talking about...do you know a lot of his fans? or you the canibus fan club spokesman? no, you speak for yourself...and maybe a few others..but in no way do you ever speak for an entire group of people...immortal technique is pretty much impossible to fully understand without taking a course in political science...does that make him less of a rapper?


not to mention..you said people assume that canibus is smarter than them...like that's a valid point? anyone who likes an artist because they think they have a higher iq..or are better educated....is a fuckiing retard..and their opinion doesn't matter
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Old 08-26-06, 02:24 PM   #12
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this might be the stupidest thing i've ever read..first thing is first..when it comes to lyrical ability..mos def isn't even in the picture...talib kweli is a good lyricist..but even he doesn't compare to the greatest of lyricists..i love black star..mos and talib seperate..but not for their lyricism..for different reasons...and how the fuck can you say you have all of commons albums...and than turn around and say.."He SEEMS like a sissy hippie"...first off...if you have all his albums..you either think he is..or you don't...he doesn't seem like anything....secondly...i know for a fact you're lying of you turn and say that common is on that love shit all the time..i'm pretty sure all you do is hear common on the radio...and see specific songs...and just decided that he seems like a sissy hippie.....i gurantee you eminem raps more about love than common...it's just rooted in anger...sorry if i'd rather listen to something i can relate too 90% of the time...than i can relate to 20% of the time...i don't have a daughter..i don't have a wife that cheats on me named kim...i don't feel a need to boast about my prejudices...and i don't feel like commiting various acts of violence that would obviously lead to sadistic murder on anyone.......


and i can guarantee you..common, and canibus both...have way more thought provoking songs, than eminem will ever have...

and whoever said canibus writes poetry and doesn't rap..is a fucking idiot..you could make a general ass statement like that to just about everyone...i want you to find the definition of rap..and definition of poetry...and show me how you can justify saying he doesn't rap..and don't ever say some stupid shit like..a lot of his fans have to look shit up to fully understand what he's talking about...do you know a lot of his fans? or you the canibus fan club spokesman? no, you speak for yourself...and maybe a few others..but in no way do you ever speak for an entire group of people...immortal technique is pretty much impossible to fully understand without taking a course in political science...does that make him less of a rapper?


not to mention..you said people assume that canibus is smarter than them...like that's a valid point? anyone who likes an artist because they think they have a higher iq..or are better educated....is a fuckiing retard..and their opinion doesn't matter

i agree with most of your post but saying that bolded part is like saying... "anyone who likes an artist just because they can express themselves differently and intelligently and still convey the same message as an underground artist who bases his song on profanities and degeradation is a retard"...

people like things for different reasons... i like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches... some one else might like them too... but i may say the jelly makes it better while the other says that peanut butter makes it better... bottom line is... we both like the damn sandwich... so it's pointless to argue over it if both parties is gon' eat the shyt regardless... same with music!
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i agree with most of your post but saying that bolded part is like saying... "anyone who likes an artist just because they can express themselves differently and intelligently and still convey the same message as an underground artist who bases his song on profanities and degeradation is a retard"...

people like things for different reasons... i like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches... some one else might like them too... but i may say the jelly makes it better while the other says that peanut butter makes it better... bottom line is... we both like the damn sandwich... so it's pointless to argue over it if both parties is gon' eat the shyt regardless... same with music!



okay....you have a valid point..HOWEVER...you are misconstruing what I meant. Basically what I am referring to, is people who hear canibus..or anyone for that matter....and hear a bunch of 25 syllable words strung together..and say hey..this guy is fucking good, because he is obviously smart enough to use bigger words..is what's retarded...i certaintly did not by any means...mean to imply that enjoying an intelligent approach to hip hop...or anything in general...and everything thought provoking, is to only be enjoyed by retards...i'm sorry if you thought that's what i was saying...we're on the same page here...it's just a little misunderstanding...maybe that's my bad



i don't think anyone is a retard for enjoying any kind of music...to me, language is a universal language...and everyone just has different dialects...it's whatever makes most sense to them in their crazy life...and as for peanut butter jelly sandwhiches....i definately preffer jelly sandwhiches or grilled cheese over a peanut butter and j....stay up bro
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why do people insist on having retarded replies, that are completely pointless, and don't contribute to anything in any way?....seriously...if you don't agree....cool...but...i could say i honestly think you might be a woman...but..that's pretty pointless to say without some kind of an explanation....find something better to do than checking threads for the first thing you can argue with
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Old 08-25-06, 01:11 PM   #15
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canibus is fucking trash...

listening to his music is like reading some gay ass emo poems on myspace...

i can see him curled up in his room with a dictionary jacking off and just using all the random words his nut lands on to make a verse...

vocab?...who the fuck cares
imagery?...wtf? IMAGERY? THESE ARE SONGS NOT FUCKING POEMS...

he has zero catchy songs ever...ill buss em you punish em is ALRIGHT just because rakim jumps on it and saves it from being another wack ass canibus song...

you could be the only guy in the middle of a bisexual girl orgy and if you popped in a canibus cd youd be jacking off that night...

canibus is music for people that have never been to a club or party that sit on their computer all fucking day and do nothing else but somehow think they're cooler than everyone else...riiiiiight...his cd's are like 80 minute sleeping pills...

if you throw on some canibus for 100 people that have never heard it MAYBE two people will like it...maybe...and they would be the fat guy that kinda smells like cheese and the emo girl with the frizzy black hair that always has unexplained cuts on her arms and legs...

any time someone tells me they like canibus theyre suspect...if they tell me hes their favorite rapper...wait thats never happenned anywhere except...ON A COMPUTER...damn this shit is all starting to make sense...if canibus is your favorite rapper you need to get out more...find some music that makes you want to do something other than kill yourself...maybe *gasp* dance a little bit...maybe *double gasp* get laid...then come home and try to listen to your canibus cd's...

WHOA wait...no not the trash...cd's are plastic man recycle them...
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