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Old 03-30-06, 05:11 PM   #1
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Did Biggie re-define what makes an ill emcee?

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I'm listening to his song "Suicidal Thoughts" and I have to say it's one of his illest songs.

He uses an extremely "simple" rhyme scheme:

When I die, fuck it, I wanna go to hell
Cuz Imma piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin tell



^^If someone dropped that on RV or another rap board, I think the reply would be, "Lyrics weren't all that good and the rhyming was simple." Yet, when Biggie flows it, it takes on a life of its own. It's amazing.

If you haven't heard "Suicidal Thoughts", DL IT NOW.



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Old 03-30-06, 05:15 PM   #2
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kinda tha same wif Eazy. n werd @ Law's quote in yo sig -_- lmao, werd
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Old 03-30-06, 05:18 PM   #3
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that track is solid, I think what make it effective is the fact that its lyrics coming from a deceased legend.

Having released,him saying..
When I die, fuck it, I wanna go to hell
Cuz Imma piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin tell

After he died, would not have been anywere near effective if that came out while he was alive. The fact that he's dead,makes it like , Woah! Dukes dead,and were hearing him say he wants go to hell.
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Old 03-30-06, 05:19 PM   #4
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Nope. Biggie didn't redefine jack shit. You hear his emotion in his lyrics cuz he mastered the instrument known as his voice.

That's all.
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Old 03-30-06, 05:21 PM   #5
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Nope. Biggie didn't redefine jack shit. You hear his emotion in his lyrics cuz he mastered the instrument known as his voice.

That's all.



Tru dat...HIs delivery carried him a looong way...That's not to say he didn't have dope metas and lyrics. but, yea, I agree there...I believe Puff said the same thing about Big's voice...His delivery of his lyrics were intoxicating.


I mean...wow

Then, Puff messed this track up, IMO, putting it on DUETS to that Marley joint...It just wasn't the same to me...THis song gave me chills...That song was eehhhh
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Old 03-30-06, 05:21 PM   #6
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lol ^.. yea but Q.. lyrics arnt all bout complex rhymes, its bout the meaning u put into it.. i think thats wut u mean? lol yea.. lot of people in RV would consider it whack.. like my latest song the lyrics are sorta simple, but lines ha alot of emotion, n realness that makes the listener forget bout the need of good vocab.. cuz they can feel wut im sayin u know?? but yea.. biggie's good.. he's jst waaaaaaaaaay over rated...
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Old 03-30-06, 05:22 PM   #7
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that track is solid, I think what make it effective is the fact that its lyrics coming from a deceased legend.

Having released,him saying..
When I die, fuck it, I wanna go to hell
Cuz Imma piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin tell

After he died, would not have been anywere near effective if that came out while he was alive. The fact that he's dead,makes it like , Woah! Dukes dead,and were hearing him say he wants go to hell.
feel?



^^Actually, that song came out when Big was alive. But yea, solid joint.
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Old 03-30-06, 05:27 PM   #8
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No, but he did redefine what makes an emcee overrated.
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Old 03-30-06, 05:28 PM   #9
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this should be in hip hop talk.
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Old 03-30-06, 05:29 PM   #10
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No, but he did redefine what makes an emcee overrated.



i kno....right







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Old 03-30-06, 06:03 PM   #11
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personaly for me big pun redefined what makes a ill mc
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biggie's shit is classic...period.....who was over rated if u ask me?2pac
pun was ill too
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^ pun is better than biggie as far as complexity
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No, but he did redefine what makes an emcee overrated.




lmao....word.....
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Old 03-30-06, 06:20 PM   #15
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i love this song...when i get depressed i listen to this song over and over again...prolly not really a good thing, but meh...

ayo Q, check the shirt i got off ebay and arrived last week...its from the song "Respect" if you all didnt know...and yeah...some of the lyrics are altered to fit the shirt/be politically correct



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