Actually hip hop was created around Clubby Party Tracks...Its music......the main meaning of music too me is just somthin too dance too.....yaddamean

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^^nah man that's def not true. Afrika Bambaata created "hip hop" and the term "hip hop" before there was even "hip hop music" and we were still spittin over disco beats (since there were no "hip hop beats") with lyrics from the voice of the people, people in the streets that wanted to make a difference and create change.

Sugar Hill Gang outta Englewood NJ did the first "clubby" type hip hop track with rappers delight, years after "hip hop" had already come into the world. And even Rappers Delight wasn't a "club track" it was a track making light of situations anyoen from the hood could relate to, lol like bad food and the shits

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EXACTLY!!!!!!

i bet alot of people also dont realise how much of an influence the punk era had on hip hop at the time it was around.

if you look back at the history of hip hop, look how alot of them dressed and you will see how similar it was to the punk dress of that day.

the entire hip hop culture got its influences from several genres of music rangeing from soul, jazz, blues, as mentioned also disco aswell.

music in general has and allways will be a form of expression, even rave music, the people who make it make it to fit the mood they are in at that time.

and people say im dumb and cant have a sensible debate and hear i am schooling some of these americans on a culture started in their country haha.

big up to apexx for being one of the few heads with actual knowledge.

im guessing you remember the days of black sheep???? they dropped some classic ish.

^^^tsss black sheep??? son, the memories hahah. and you're def right, Hip Hop artists back then definitly use to dress pretty flamboyant. You ever seen the video for The Message? Dude looked like Billy Idol's stylist.


yo, you know Terminator X died in April??? Bam gave the eulogy

and you're right man, the percentage of cats on this board that acutually knwo what they think they're talking about is < 3%.

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Hip hop - Rapping(Mc'ng)/beat boxing/break dancing/Graffiti.

Why must people go by talent and say which isnt hip hop and which is. Its just a different form of hip hop. Some rap about society. some rap about Bitches and ho's..some rap about killin niggas and the drug game...some rap about dances. its all rap. which is an element of hip hop.

^^nobody said jack shit about "talent" yo what are you talking about?

somebody could be horrendously wack and still make hip hop, just liek someone can be horrendously wack and still be a rapper

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who said i said anybody said anything about "talent" i was making a statement.

and in all actuality that is basically what is being said when it really comes down to it. people feel that the mainstream isnt "talented" enough to be labled as "hip hop" because the music they make is "nothing but catchy hooks for 13 year olds to sing to".

okay well....thats just saying right there its all about opinions on who has talent...or i should i say who's Hip hop and who isnt?.

I dunno..my views gone stay the same
but Im not really understanding why people pick at the mainstream all the time..when they are doing the same thing people who are underground are doing...Making Rap music for people to relate to....

you did. right here:

i don't see how you're drawing lines about "everything i hear is hip hop" when no one said anything about talent dividing music.

here's the skinny, most hip hop artists are more aware and more intellegent than rap artists, so naturally their lyrics have more thought involved and more substance, or as you call it more..."talent".

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meh, im more entertained by pop music these days that old school, i like banging music, but still like old school

whaaaaaaaaaaat, why the fuck did i not hear bout him dieing??? how he die??? shiiiiiit thats shocked the shit out of me lol.

hip hop - is a culture, a life style(all the things i mentioned before)

hip hop music is music made to feed that culture(which lets face it people into that are into underground/old school stuff e.t.c)

rap music is what you catch on the mainstream made to entertain the none hip hop fans(people who dont live and thrive off the culture)

notice how i didnt say music and said culture???? there is your difference.

yeah man, believe it or not, I didn't hear about it on one single music channel, not one "hit" radio station or none of that and I didn't find out till a month after it happened. he passed of heart failure or something to that effect

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Fuck hip hop. Poetry is where it's at.

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Honestly, no one can be right in this arguement.

It's a matter of opinion. How it starts, what it becomes, is all in the circle of life. Now, it is about the money, whether it should be is just a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't believe money should be our motivation to do something we love because eventually that money will corrupt you and your morals will be gone. I value my creativity, my passion, and what makes me a good person.

The thing I think that sets underground and mainstream apart, is if money is your only motivation or just your main. Cuz everyone wants money, let's face it. You wouldn't do something that cost you money and made you nothing at all, that's not logical. Money is a motivation for me, but not my main one. I want to help people, and music is the best way and I love music.

But ya, basically argueing bout this is pointless. Cuz you won't change someone on how they feel. If you believe money is what you need to survive, then you are very foolish and need to re examine your life.

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rap music is about the money.

hip hop is about the lifestyle.

thats my point.... rap music, do you see ANY of them showing love or showing people the other aspects of hip hop???(beatbox, graff e.t.c)... hell no you dont.

anyway apexx, thats majourly fucked up... sum1 who is more or less one of the original hip hop MC's gets no respect when he passes, that goes to show how the industry doesnt respect the culture e.t.c and only respect the money.

^^yup.

that's the same exact thing I felt. You couldn't even take a moment to honor a dude who made it possible to do what you do?

the industry is completely heartless man.

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