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Old 07-28-06, 10:08 PM   #1
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Time is pretty wierd ay. It's wierd how we humans love to put a measure on everything, even things like events, which are impossible to measure or gauge. Also, I don't believe one bit that present is caused by the past.
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Time is movement...


Thats all...
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Old 07-28-06, 10:19 PM   #3
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Movement in what way?

Do you believe that what happens in the present happens because of what happened in the past?
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yup..concdiering where u are is prolly a totally different time then it is right here in mass. haha like we got different time zones..b/c the earth is round..and too keep the same amount of light in a day every where..we cut the world into different zones..to keep up woth the sun.....dunno if thats what ur really getting at..but i thought of it while reading hahah
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Old 07-28-06, 10:21 PM   #5
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Movement in what way?

Do you believe that what happens in the present happens because of what happened in the past?



you needa be more specific about that...b.c if i burnt my house down last year..i wouldnt be here right now.....so yeah..what we do effect the future....but idk abotut he time part
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Old 07-28-06, 10:21 PM   #6
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yup..concdiering where u are is prolly a totally different time then it is right here in mass. haha like we got different time zones..b/c the earth is round..and too keep the same amount of light in a day every where..we cut the world into different zones..to keep up woth the sun.....dunno if thats what ur really getting at..but i thought of it while reading hahah


Thats bull though. Are you saying that the now I am experiencing right this very moment is not the exact now that you are experiencing? Of course it is.
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yeah..but where do u live? its prolly darker or lighter...u might be in the middle of a sunnny day..its dark where i am now....im saying...time isnt anything....its just the paosition of the easrth roatating....
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Old 07-28-06, 10:29 PM   #8
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yeah..but where do u live? its prolly darker or lighter...u might be in the middle of a sunnny day..its dark where i am now....im saying...time isnt anything....its just the paosition of the easrth roatating....


The amount of light where I am has nothing to do with time. Time isnt anything? Then why are you existing -_-.
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Movement in what way?

Do you believe that what happens in the present happens because of what happened in the past?

I believe in cause and effect.

And obviously for any effect to occur the cause must have happened in the past.

Are you trying to say the past has no effect on the future?

You stupid cunt...
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The amount of light where I am has nothing to do with time. Time isnt anything? Then why are you existing -_-.



what would TIME have to do with ME existing??

MANKIND...invented time...we made it up....so ur saying the cave men all had alarmclocks to wake em up at the crakc of dawn??? time has NOTHIN to do with me existing...humans made time up....

im sure if you could talk to animals...and asked them, what TIME the eat...they wouldnt tell you around 5. they'll say when im hungry. hgaha time isnt real my friend
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Old 07-28-06, 11:14 PM   #11
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I believe in cause and effect.

And obviously for any effect to occur the cause must have happened in the past.

Are you trying to say the past has no effect on the future?

You stupid cunt...


OK. Lets think of an effect as an event, in regards to the concept of cause and effect. One example of an event is the birth of a baby.

You could regard the cause of an event as its beginning. So when did this event, the birth of a baby, begin? What caused it? Does it begin the moment the mother goes into labour? It could begin the moment the child was conceived. It could have been caused by the hormones in the father that caused sexual lust, or the production of the sperm or ova in the parents. It could have been caused by the parents' birth, or their parents birth, or their parents birth, or theirs. We don't know what REALLY caused the event at all.

Howbout another example... A war. The first world war. This event, when did it begin (when was it caused), how long did it go for, and when did it end?

Well, you'd say that the cause of the war was this country doing this, and the regime of this or that country, and so on. You'd say that the war began in 1914 and ended in 1918. When in fact, all the things that led up to the first world war started long before 1914, and the repercussions of that war have continued long beyond 1918. How are we to distinguish an event from its repercussions? The time that we slapped onto the war and called it's duration is purely random. They chose two of the many aspects of the event and labeled them the start and finish.

Cause and effect is a flawed concept, because it regards every event in time as a seperate event. In reality there is no seperate events.

Lets say I was sitting down and looking through the slit of a fence, and a snake slithered past. Through the slit, first I see it's head, then its body, and then it's tail. You cause and effect guys go "ah! the head is the cause of the tail!" But that is purely a misconception. What I can see through the slit, is the present, right? I see the beginning of the snake, and then the whole snake until it ends at the tail. This doesnt mean that the head is the cause of the tail, the snake is one whole.
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what would TIME have to do with ME existing??

MANKIND...invented time...we made it up....so ur saying the cave men all had alarmclocks to wake em up at the crakc of dawn??? time has NOTHIN to do with me existing...humans made time up....

im sure if you could talk to animals...and asked them, what TIME the eat...they wouldnt tell you around 5. they'll say when im hungry. hgaha time isnt real my friend


We didn't invent time, we just named it, and then foolishly tried to measure it.

Mankind invented the measurement, ft. Does that mean that the space between you and the wall closest to you doesnt exist, because it is possible to measure it in ft?

I am not talking about time in regards to numbers. I'm talking about time in regards to time.
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aight..well time..dont have to do with the distance between me and the wall...thats not time at all?? lol and time...as in...the earth wraps aroudn the sun.....its continues never ending....time..is continuouse...yeah we made up the measurments in time..like 6'oclock and that shit...
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Old 07-28-06, 11:32 PM   #14
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Time has nothing to do with the earth moving around the sun.
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im saying...we measure time..by sunlight an shit..and im saying time i snever endning....cant be measured..by it dont re-lap it self...its continouse..... i was getting at we think about time as in day and night.......and ur comment about..the distance between me and the wall...not exsiting if it went for time....was totally retarded... lol but i no wut ir sayina botu the other shit
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