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01-29-07, 02:07 PM | #1 | |||
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Why does everyone try to find every possible reason NOT to believe in God, rather than looking at what is evident?
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01-29-07, 02:09 PM | #2 | |||||||
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcbTJgeJrw0
interesting video that doesnt answer your question but fuck it |
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01-29-07, 03:02 PM | #3 | |||||||
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anything on fox news is ganna try swaying everything towards the more conservitive point of view because conservitive republicans and the people that give republicans money choose what goes on. so its impossible to have a regulur positive conversation on fox news if u go agianst conservitive republicans. and getting attacked for coming onto someones show just shows how fuckin gay they are. but thats a good vid, cuz i'd never would of seen it cuz i refuse to watch fox news
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01-29-07, 03:09 PM | #4 | |||||||
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and there isn't anything evident lame-o
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01-29-07, 10:57 PM | #5 | ||||||
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To make them feel better about themselves... It depends on the kind of person you are. Some people are offended and pissed off at the thought that they aren't in control of themselves and their life, other people love the idea of having somebody steer their life for them. I'm just talking about the main interpretation of "God" though, that most people believe/don't believe.
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01-30-07, 09:27 AM | #6 | |||||||
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i dunno guy, i just know that we need God....cuz, without God, how are we to tell morals, how can we tell what's right and wrong...one guy will think smoking dope is bad, another good, one may think killing a killer is good, but one may think it is still bad because killing is killing.....
we can't rely on ourselves to give ourselves morals....cuz we'll turn it around and destroy ourselves....denying God is denying his commandments, and without his commandments, we got no moral code...but that which we give ourselves, and if that were the case, like mentioned above, no two peoples own given moral codes would be alike, thus no way to tell exactly what is right and what is wrong, just opinions... |
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01-30-07, 10:41 AM | #7 | ||||||||
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people been around long enough to find out what a good moral code would be, and i bet someone was smart enough to write it down... and since humans wrote the bible, we thought of our own moral code through a multiple amount of life trial and error.
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01-30-07, 03:53 PM | #8 | |||||||
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that's if you believe the bible wasn't dictated to the writers by God, and there are aguements for both...and you can't say we have grown since way back when with help from our governmental/individual moral codes cuz people still shoot eachother, people still hurt eachother, and we still have wars, face it, individual moral codes don't work....we as humans, like to use degrees in our morals....ex. no doubt you think lying is wrong, but no doubt you will also tell a fib/lie if you feel it's such a small one that it won't do anything, tho if you hafta tell a big lie, you might not do it, it would depend on your circumstances, you won't lie about someone who killed someone else, but i bet you'd lie or try to lie about it if you stole or tried to steal something...but still, no matter big or small, a lie is still a lie, .....telling you man, self given/made moral codes just don't work....
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01-30-07, 04:44 PM | #9 | |||||
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evident? when it rains, the ground gets wet, that's evident. the heat from our sun warms our planet. that's evident. the wind blows. that's evident. what ever god you believe in, is not evident.
if a supreme being really put you here, it would be undenyable. it would be clear. not open for interpretation. the people of this planet would unanimously agree, like they do for the basic factors i described above. if it were real, you would know it, instead of believe it. btw, pretty bold to call something "evident" when there's so much tangible evidence that disproves it. you can't disprove a fact son, only a concept.
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02-01-07, 03:23 AM | #10 | ||||
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wow apexx I was expecting more coming from you
Pride and people not wanting to beleive that they wont go to heaven/hell is one of the thing that causes it. The second commandment says not to create a God thats not THE REAL GOD...... God is a judge....SIMPLE and plain..theres one way to get around that law and thats all there is to it And if you think that we all just poppped out of the ground and this life happend by chance then i dont know what to say...... wheres the tangible evidence that disproves God? I'd really like to see this evidence thats not a.Theory b.100 Percent Prooves God is NOT REAL once you can proove he's 100 percent not real then you'll have people to beleive you Its about faith and God is going to test your faith a lot so you can Persevere and grow closer with him..I've learned so much over the past month.....it goes on and on and on |
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02-01-07, 08:33 AM | #11 | ||||||
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You know why people can't disprove God? Because believers can't define God in the first place..
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02-01-07, 11:19 AM | #12 | ||||||||
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and what about all the other religions, do i have to go to hell for not believin in their "REAL GOD?"
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02-01-07, 07:30 PM | #13 | |||||
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listen pt lemme explain something to you. religion exists so that people belive that their suffering is worth something or has reason. and that the the wrongs done against you will be vindicated. weak minded people need to believe theres a purpose to their pain, and some blah blah blah point to their life.
i understand that you're brainwashed by the pagans that wrote your book, but dont' let that blind you to things much bigger
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02-02-07, 10:44 PM | #14 | |||||||
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I don't understand why everyone needs God to come down from the heavens and prove he's God before atheists believe in him. That's why belief is belief and fact is fact. If God wanted us to have factual knowledge that he exists, that would be what is here. If God wanted us to believe in him, there would be no facts, only reason to believe. The latter is what I find in everyday life, I can't say "No, fuck you, God exists, here's my proof." nor can any Christian. All we can do is say we truly believe for our own reasons and that anyone else who wants to believe will have to come across it in their own way.
The reason Christianity looks dumb most of the time is people like PT who act like everything in the bible is undisputed proof that God exists and there is nothing in the world that shows even he slightest hint that he doesn't. In all reality, Christianity is based on faith and religion for individuals, I don't think we should be trying to act like since something has been shown to us each individually for whatever reason, it makes it "fact" for everyone else. -_-
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02-03-07, 11:34 AM | #15 | ||||
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because there is no evidence think about it the ancient romans thought a guy with a big old chariot pulled the sun ancient greeks thought a man held up the sky both have much more logical and provable explanations God is a metaphor for the nature of existence |
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