Using the computer analogy, say I believe it IS run by magic, and a huge majority of people around think it is too. Saying, "No, trust me, it's not. Computer's run by themselves through various functions etc etc here's proof" isn't a good argument in convincing me and the people around me, even if you're right. If I believe magic has something to do with it, and you can't prove definitively that it doesn't, I, as someone who believes differently can EASILY say you're just making assumptions and you can't say that something doesn't happen just because it doesn't SEEM to happen. Catch my drift?

Personally, I know what you meant BUT when doing something like this, you can't assume everyone is going to think of examples and dig deeper into what you're saying, you have to fully analyze every aspect to the fullest, especially when trying to say that millions of people all over the world are wrong.

That's all. =/

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You believe the computer is run by magic because you're the equivalent of an Amish person faced before a computer and you can't comprehend how the complex mechanisms inside function, so you believe it's a miracle from God.

Millions--billions--of people in the world are undereducated dumbfucks who need an imaginary friend to hold their hand so they can continue their perfunctory existence where they wake up, go to work, come home, make spaghetti for dinner, take a shower, watch television, and go to sleep because they lack the mental willpower to exist on their own and acknowledge that someone up there is not guiding everything they do, so they better fucking control their own life because when they lay in the middle of a road at midnight, God's not going to make the cars swerve to the side.

I'm going to whip you in the temple with your dookie chain.

pesonally i believe the soul is created in the brain, as another way of facing and accepting the fact we will die one day. when our body goes, we can somewhat be at ease knowing we can carry on where-ever it is a soul goes in the afterlife, if there is one, and that can have a huge effect on the way a person deals with present-life.

it was a good read, keep up

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Er. I suppose if you twist the definition of soul to 'human yearning for a life after death', yes.

Of course there are flaws in the analogy, but it's pretty simple as long as you don't go ridiculously deep. But you get the point as a superficial analogy. You look out through the eyes(windshield) and mentally drive your body around. If you leave the car on, it can run by itself (regulating heart beat and breathing) but it can't do anything beyond that. Eventually without someone putting in the gas, the car would stop running (food and hydration). If you want to get really specific and stretch it, meditation could be considered leaving the car via the 'car door'.

Hmm yeah I think that is mostly it... There is another kind of consciousness though, the same one that is beating your heart. Breathing is a good example, you can do it either with your concentrated attention or let it do it on it's own. It is similar with many other things.

The fact is that society causes us to overdevelop our concentrated attention and ignore the virtues of our other kind of consciousness. Concentrated attention lacks in many areas, it's just one part of the brain while the other kind of consciousness is a different part.

The kind of consciousness I'm talking about is the one that moves you if say, a ball was flying at your head. Or the one that drives your car if you are having a conversation with someone in the passenger seat and concentrating on that instead of driving. This consciousness is neglected and ignored, even though it is equally or more useful than our concentrated attention. That is because most people think that the concentrated attention is who they are and identify only with that, thinking that that is what drives the car and sees through the windshield. Which is why I wanted to argue with you about it, because you said the same thing.

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