Originally Posted by N.A.D.A.

^ that isn't stereotypical. I'm in an African American Rhetoric class, and this type of thing comes up a lot... Du Bois, Hughes, Ellison, all of them spoke in terms like Indeph is. It isn't stereotyping, but instead it is a way of generalizing how other communities operate in order to properly observe how the African American community operates. Culture can't be ignored, and how Indeph is really speaking is in terms of culture. Not trying to correct you just because of our argument in that other thread, but that is a really important concept to understand... and i'll explain more what I mean if you want.

PS - I really wish somebody who i was addressing would respond and try to argue against that long ass argument i made.

Originally Posted by N.A.D.A.

^ As was I. White people are the hegemony (the dominant ideology). Therefore, when any other group does not imitate (or worship, or wish to live up to) the ideals of that dominant ideology, they are oppressed. Theoretically, this is true in any democratic capitalistic society. Indeph was saying that in general, Asians in America, in ideological terms, accept the role of living up to that "whiteness." Blacks do not, and are therefore discriminated against (systemically as well as ideologically).

Yall may be studying "debating," but this is what I'm studying

Originally Posted by JTR

It's still stereotypical to say asians worship the white man. Because first things first, when he says it he's only refering to orientals, which is already stereotypical because there's so many other countries in Asia. And second, because i'm pretty sure orientals in general don't worship white people. Maybe want what the rich ones have, but that's as far as it goes. You guys should actually meet more oriental people and talk to them or something loll.

Originally Posted by SPuL™

I'm asian. FUCK THE WHITE MAN!

Originally Posted by JTR

It's still stereotypical to say asians worship the white man. Because first things first, when he says it he's only refering to orientals, which is already stereotypical because there's so many other countries in Asia. And second, because i'm pretty sure orientals in general don't worship white people. Maybe want what the rich ones have, but that's as far as it goes. You guys should actually meet more oriental people and talk to them or something loll.

Originally Posted by N.A.D.A.

arrgh... i realize this, and i realize asian culture is proud, and i'm not trying to take that away from them. what you have to understand is that we aren't speaking on the individual level. we're speaking on the ideological level, and how entire cultures OPERATE in relation to each other and in relation to the dominant hegemony... once again, not on the individual level. most of the time when entire cultures operate in a certain way the people don't even REALIZE its happening, let alone do anything to purposely encourage it. i'm not saying asians aren't proud, and i'm not even really arguing ANYTHING about asians, Indeph made the statement... i'm just trying to help you understand the terms in which he/we are speaking.

Originally Posted by Baphomet

i do think its pretty gay to call a white guy a nigger...

if one of my friends said it to me, id prolly be like .........huh?

Originally Posted by Nada

that statement is assuming something though... that black people are "niggers."

Originally Posted by Lysol

But Eminem is the best.

Originally Posted by JTR

^^ He's not east indian, and east indians are Asian dumb ass