I never said what I believe in, but I did say that doubting anything was ignorant. I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to get across.

I believe in the possibility of a higher power or who knows, maybe an equal power, but there was definitely something that starting everything and what started that? Who knows..?

I believe that religions are fucking retarded, one could be right, I won't count that possibility out, but I think they are used more so to control people or as a crutch for the lonely and unintelligent.

As John Lennon said..

You say you found Jesus Christ
He's the only one
You say you've found Buddha
Sittin' in the sun
You say you found Mohammed
Facin' to the East
You say you found Krishna
Dancin' in the streets

Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
And it's your mother (your mother, don't forget your mother, lad)
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do it for you
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do it for you
Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in lords
But if you don't go out and serve yourself, lad, ain't no room service here

It's still the same old story
A bloody Holy War
A fight for love and glory
Ain't gonna study war no more
A fight for God and country
We're gonna set you free
We'll put you back in the Stone Age
If you won't be like me - get it?

You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you
Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in lords

'But Christ, you're gonna have to serve yourself and that's all there is to it.
So get right back here it's in the bloody fridge. God, when I was a kid.
Didn't have stuff like this, TV-fuckin' dinners and all that crap.
You fuckin' kids are all the fuckin' same! Want a fuckin' car now...
Lucky to have a pair of shoes!'

You tell me you found Jesus Christ
Well that's great and he's the only one
You say you just found Buddha
Sittin' on his ass in the sun
You say you found Mohammed
Kneeling on a bloody carpet facin' the East
You say you found Krishna
With a bald head dancin' in the street ('Well, Christ, now you're
being heard')

You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you ('that's right, lad, you better get that straight
into your fuckin' head')
You got to serve yourself ('you know that, who else is gonna do it for you, it
ain't me I tell you that')
Well, you may believe in Jesus, and you may believe in Marx
And you may believe in Marks and Spencer's and you may believe in bloody
Woolworths
But there's something missing in this whole bloody stew
And it's your mother, your poor bloody mother ('she worked for you in the
back bedroom, full of piss and shit and fuckin' midwives. God, you can't
forget that awful moment, you know. You should have been in the bloody
war, lad, and you would know all about it. Well, I'll tell you something.')

It's still the same old story
A Holy bloody War, you know, with the Pope and all that stuff
A fight for love and glory
Ain't gonna study no more war
A fight for God and country, and the Queen and all that
We're gonna set you free
Bomb you back into the fuckin' Stone Age
If you won't be like me, you know, get down on your knees and pray

Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
And it's your goddamn mother you dirty little git, now
get in there and wash yer ears!

No, Adam did not spew ignorant logic in this thread.

It's simply a misunderstanding of the semantics in regards to your beliefs that has caused all of this. You need your correct titling and better explanation for people to address you in an uncontroversial manner, fletch.

That's the only problem here.

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he died from sniffing bleach actually

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Lol, Michael was doing heroin.

His family's upset about that being in the report so they're going for a third autopsy. Apparently.

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heaven and hell eh? i believe you will always be in the same spot you are in now, but always tryin to better yourself until u reach a point of existance that matters. if you do go to hell, you made it, same with heaven. your are currently in those places right now. your existance is consistent. time is an illusion with purpose, everything you think happened or is gonna happen is currently happening. you have the choice every instance to create a better existance, and you should always be working towards that. love is happiness happiness is love- try and help others as you would like helped. get your shit together and help others do the same. ya dig

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To save myself from posting multiple responses, this is really directed to both LatinKitten and Talksic. Clearly, they are both missing the point I am trying to make.


I do not believe in Heaven or Hell, therefore it is impossible for me to end up there. Why? Because wherever I end up after I die, it can't be a place I don't believe exists. It would have to be something else, another existence.

It is simple really. I don't give a fuck what you religious people believe. In your mind, if I do bad shit, I'll be in Hell. Yes? It don't make a difference what YOU believe. If I end up in some cavernous pits surrounded by fire with a horned dude stabbing me with a pitchfork. It WILL NOT be Hell to me. Why? Because I don't believe in Hell. It would be something completely different.

Where you end up in the afterlife is different for people with different beliefs. If a Christian and an Atheist both led good lives, and both went to the same place when they died. Lets say the place was full of white fluffy clouds. To the Christian, he would be in heaven. To the atheist, he would be in whatever he believes the place to be.

So, who's the fucking moron now? I believe LatinKitten is really. Sure, you would call it Heaven. I'd call it something else.

Here's a simple example of looking at the point I am trying to make. If you took Santa Claus.. and before you start saying "who the fuck was talking about santa you moron" just fucking listen you ignorant grease whore. Take Santa Claus... now if you got two people.. one believed it was Santa Claus.. another believed it was some faggot in a red suit with a beard. That is the same concept. They are both staring at the same person, but one believes the person to be one thing.. another believes the person to be a different thing.

So, you see Heaven as Heaven. I see it as something else.. or in lamens terms.. NOT HEAVEN!! Now do you get me? Or will you continue to be ignorant towards the point I am trying to put to you as simply as fucking possible.

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..so the moral of the story is,if u ended up in hell,even tho u didnt believe in it,u would just call it something else to be a rebel...like a "bad place" rofl

thanks for provin my point dude....tiz all

p.s. i stopped readin about halfway through lol

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If the point you was trying to make was that you are a moron and took so long to grasp the simplest of things that I was explaining to you... then yeah, I guess I did prove your point.

p.s. human psychology 101.. when you realise you've been defeated, you try to play it off with a childish shot like "whatever, i didn't even read all that" when secretly you did. or like "you just proved my point" when really you've just realised I was right all along. there are several other variations of responses, those were just the two you used. its basically anything to divert the topic or bring it to an end without formally acknowledging that you were wrong and/or stupid.

congratulations, idiot.

p.p.s. don't even waste your time trying to come back at that, because you've subliminally admitted your defeat.. so I have no further interest in this discussion. good day.

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Why do people have to insult deceased people just because assumptions were made. Mike never touched a kid in his life the way media portraits. It was some dumb family on a get rich quick trip that told their kid to say that and others were like you mean we can get money?

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THE TRUTH IS I'M BETTER THAN YOU

if you want my honest opinion i think der is something up deep in the skys a place dat we all reuinite when we're gone... i think we're like messengers of, god really someone who created us... thats why we have fate, i believe in that 2 a certain dregree cuz shit dont aways work out as planned do they... it's very weird.. lifes like recycling... it doesnt ever end.. when i get more ideas on how we got here i'll explain dem cuz i have a rough idea.. we're just like any other nature thing on dis plannet..

teach me everything technique.

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lmfao 2v i love you. . . . . .no homo

Fletch just subliminally admitted his defeat.... according to his own logic.

Besides, the entire argument was stupid as shit and took a turn for the worst when people who do not know how to define beliefs by using a simple title took the stage to debate.

I could have easily majorly butted in but I just sat back and watched.

Then again there's a lot of things I could say on this site that I don't say...

well I'ma go check my RIP thread.

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And you just failed miserably at trying to use my own logic against me. I didn't admit defeat, simply because you can't admit defeat to a person who has just admitted defeat to you.

That's like a dude in a game of chess knocking over his King to grant victory to the other guy, who in return knocks his down and tries to admit his own defeat. It's fucking redundant.

Nice try though.

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"my point is that u proved my point that is all"

then

"SO YOUR POINT IS THAT YOU'RE A MORON? HERES SOME PSYCHOLOGY, CHANGING THE SUBJECT OR SAYING "I DIDNT READ IT" OR SOMETHING ELSE IN ORDER TO BRING THE TOPIC TO AN END IS JUST ADMITTING DEFEAT. YOURE AN IDIOT. DONT EVEN WASTE YOUR TIME, YOU ADMITTED DEFEAT. I HAVE NO FURTHER INTEREST IN THIS DISCUSSION. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY"

2v: "that's reverse logical"

same guy who 2v said something about:
"YOU FAILED MISERABLY. I DIDN't ADMIT DEFEAT. 'CUZ SHE DID. LOOOL"

when in reality 100% of psychology is hypothesis.

Maybe you just don't know what psychology is :0

have a wonderful day

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