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Old 01-21-04, 07:40 PM   #1
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Sleep affectin creativity ?

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This is long, but interesting. taktik - i told you that my battle skills hurt when i only get 4 hours sleep!

Study: Sleep Essential for Creativity

Wed Jan 21, 1:05 PM

By WILLIAM McCALL, Associated Press Writer

- Everybody feels refreshed following a good night's sleep. But can you wake up smarter? More artistic perhaps?

German scientists say they have demonstrated for the first time that our sleeping brains continue working on problems that baffle us during the day, and the right answer may come more easily after 8 hours of rest.

The German study is considered to be the first hard evidence supporting the common sense notion that creativity and problem solving appear to be directly linked to adequate sleep, scientists say. Other researchers who did not contribute to the experiment say it provides a valuable reminder for overtired workers and students that sleep is often the best medicine.

Previous studies have shown that 70 million Americans are sleep-deprived, contributing to increased accidents, worsening health and lower test scores. But the new German experiment takes the subject a step further to show how sleep can help to turn yesterday's problem into today's solution.

"It's going to have potentially important results for children for school performance and for adults for work performance," Hunt said.

Scientists at the University of Luebeck in Germany found that volunteers taking a simple math test were three times more likely than sleep-deprived participants to figure out a hidden rule for converting the numbers into the right answer if they had eight hours of sleep. The results appear in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.

The study involved 106 people divided into five separate groups of equal numbers of men and women ages 18 to 32. One group slept, another stayed awake all night, and a third stayed awake all day for eight-hour periods before testing following training in the main experiment. Two other groups were used in a supplemental experiment.

The study participants performed a "number reduction task" according to two rules that allowed them to transform strings of eight digits into a new string that fit the rules. A third rule was hidden in the pattern, and researchers monitored the test subjects continuously to see when they figure out the third rule.

The group that got eight hours of sleep before tackling the problem was nearly three times more likely to figure out the rule than the group that stayed awake at night.

Jan Born, who led the study, said the results support biochemical studies of the brain that indicate memories are restructured before they are stored. Creativity also appears to be enhanced in the process, he said.

"This restructuring might be occurring in such a way that the problem is easier to solve," Born said.

Born said the exact process in the sleeping brain for sharpening these abilities remains unclear. The changes leading to creativity or problem-solving insight occur during "slow wave" or deep sleep that typically occurs in the first four hours of the sleep cycle, he said.

The results also may explain the memory problems associated with aging because older people typically have trouble getting enough sleep, especially the kind of deep sleep needed to process memories, Born said.

"Even gradual decreases in the total time for slow wave sleep and deep sleep is correlated to a kind of decrease in memory function, and in turn to a decrease in the ability to recognize hidden structures or the awareness of such things," Born said.

Other researchers said they have long suspected that sleep helps to consolidate memories and sharpen thoughts. But until now it had been difficult to design an experiment that would test how it improves insight.

History is dotted with incidents where artists and scientists have awakened to make their most notable contributions after long periods of frustration. For example, that's how Russian chemist Dmitri Mendeleev established the periodic table of elements and British poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge wrote his epic "Kubla Khan."

Born and his team "have applied a clever test that allows them to determine exactly when insight occurs," wrote Pierre Maquet and Perrine Ruby at the University of Liege in a commentary on the research, also published in Nature.

Maquet and Ruby both say the study should be considered a warning to schools, employers and government agencies that sleep makes a huge difference in mental performance.

The results "give us good reason to fully respect our periods of sleep _ especially given the current trend to recklessly curtail them," they said.

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Old 01-21-04, 07:51 PM   #2
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oh yea; i forgot that nobody cares about valid topics .. sorry
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Old 01-21-04, 07:53 PM   #3
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I just finished..
You could've shortened it..most of it was bs..
But it's true...
...So i need to stop devotin my precious sleep..at rb
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Old 01-21-04, 08:00 PM   #4
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It's logical. And one would usually find this out with consistent lack of sleep over a week or so.

Relevant thread nonetheless. Though it's unusual that it's taken them this long to come with 'substantial' proof of this.
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Old 01-21-04, 08:13 PM   #5
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Yea when i read it, it did not seem like it would have been a hard study to come up with. I suppose that 8 hours of sleep has always been the standard amount for a good nights sleep though, becase my mom always used to tell me to get 8 hours a night. Maybe i shouldnt post the verse i wrote up tonight.. ive been undersleeping all week.. going on 4 hrs per night..
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Old 01-21-04, 08:34 PM   #6
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Well..In all honesty..one thing I do know..is people are definatly sleeping on this thread..damn..but yeah..I'm never in the mood to write if I've slept say..2 or so hours..I just get frustrated..
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Old 01-21-04, 08:41 PM   #7
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of coarse you cant write when your tired. thats nothing new. when ever i write late at night its usualy not that good. but i dont notice how weak it is until the next day when i read it or try to rap it.
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Old 01-21-04, 11:20 PM   #8
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why do i write best when im dead tired then?
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Old 01-22-04, 12:58 AM   #9
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^You're "special" maybe? Anyways, it just so happens we're covering a chapter related to this in my psychology class. We've learned about REM (Rapid eye movement) sleep and another type which I can't recall at the moment. You go through a sleeping cycle that last 90 minutes each time you sleep of about three different stages. The last state is very beneficial to your body. And with each sleep cycle you go through, the last stage lasts longer. So people who only sleep about 6 hours, don't get as much beneficial sleep as those who sleep 8 hours and achieve a longer duration in the final stage of the sleeping cycle. Hope this made sense.
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Old 01-22-04, 02:04 AM   #10
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I stopped reading after looking at the words "German Scientists".

I mean c'mon, these are the folks who called nuclear science 'jew science'.

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Old 01-22-04, 02:21 AM   #11
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Any UK heads here who watched "Shattered" ?

It was a reality tv show where the 8 contestants had to stay awake for a week...

The winner grabbed £100,000.......

Anywhow, the most intelligent of the crew were abseloutly de-pazzalised....

They had scientific tests each day to moniter their conditions...
It was mad...

Do u know that sleep deperevation in males causes constant erections..!!
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Old 01-22-04, 04:39 AM   #12
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^^I saw a bit of it but thought it was shit so I turned over and didnt watch it again.....but who wants to try and stay awake for a week. £100, 000 or not I'd need my sleep.
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Old 01-22-04, 04:44 AM   #13
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^ i agree it woz shit + they did get some sleep. so there woz no point in the show really!!!! fuckin british TV!!!!
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Old 01-22-04, 06:42 AM   #14
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British TV sucks ass.....so I hardly ever watch it....I'm either on this or out wid my boys.
Or when I do watch TV it's usually for sport
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Old 01-22-04, 07:08 AM   #15
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im up till like 4am and on every night....and thats when i make beats...lol..

so i disagree with this....i could never get up and an hour later do ANYTHIGN creative....lol....

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