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Old 03-28-06, 01:51 PM   #1
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I read them both to be honest, and its pretty indentical.

Only difference is Jesus is consider god in the bible
and in the quran its another prophet.

Well here comes my question i dont know if any of you can answer.

If Jesus is a symbol of christianity, is he god?

Which makes Maria gods mother?


pretty confusing dont you think so.
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Old 03-28-06, 02:00 PM   #2
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..well,the quaran and the bible cant be the same cuz...
....why doesnt the bible breed terrorists?

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Old 03-28-06, 02:06 PM   #3
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I read them both to be honest, and its pretty indentical.

Only difference is Jesus is consider god in the bible
and in the quran its another prophet.

Well here comes my question i dont know if any of you can answer.

If Jesus is a symbol of christianity, is he god?

Which makes Maria gods mother?


pretty confusing dont you think so.



Biblically speaking, Jesus is God. John 1 says, "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." The bible also says of Jesus, "In him dwells the fullness of the Godhead." Mary was Jesus' mother, yes. But, Catholics have given her a more important role than the bible intended, IMO. Jesus said, "Ask the FATHER anything in my name, and I will do it." Nowhere in the New Testament does Jesus instruct us to pray to Mary.

So, yes, Jesus is God. When the bible speaks of the creative power of God, it's referring to Jesus.
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Old 03-28-06, 08:29 PM   #5
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If Jesus is a symbol of christianity, is he god?

Well, according to The Bible God has 3 parts in one. The trinity if you will. The Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. Technically they are all part of the same person, but each part is different. It's hard to comprehend, but ya.

Which makes Maria gods mother?

Maria is not God's mother, she was more like a deliverer to make Jesus' birth as humbling as possible. She was also a loyal follower of God. Since she was a virgin Jesus was not born with sin like the rest of us, but instead was pure. Jesus is the Son of God, but he was born like the rest of us in less but in less than adequate conditions.
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God does not have 3 parts, and Jesus is not God, he is God's son, and represents God for Christianity, mary is Jesus mother, but is not God's mother, she was a faithful follower to God, and helped God born his son. Jesus was able to do mircales, but thats because God gave him the power to do that. But Jesus is "NOT" God.
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Ya he does bro. The Bible clearly states that.
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Dabatos, you are incorrect according to scripture bro. Jesus is God, God the son. The Holy Spirt is God, God the Holy Ghost. The Father is God, God the father. All creative power that formed anything in existence came through Jesus. That's in John chapter 1. "Types of Christs" are found in examples throughout the body. Lot's of the encounters people had in the old testament were with Jesus himself. Remember, Jesus is the 2nd part of the God-head (aka Trinity).


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PS...It's not uncommon for Christians to disagree on this point. Someone I knew a while back did a survey of the people in my old church. He asked a simple question: "Is Jesus God?" About 1/2 the people said yes and 1/2 said no. John chapter 1 clears that up though. In Jesus lies the fullness of the Godhead. All power is given to him in heaven and on earth. That's also scriptural.
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Dabatos, you are incorrect according to scripture bro. Jesus is God, God the son. The Holy Spirt is God, God the Holy Ghost. The Father is God, God the father. All creative power that formed anything in existence came through Jesus. That's in John chapter 1. "Types of Christs" are found in examples throughout the body. Lot's of the encounters people had in the old testament were with Jesus himself. Remember, Jesus is the 2nd part of the God-head (aka Trinity).


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So Jesus created earth?? no he didnt, it was God that created earth. He preached Gods words. Holy Ghost, and holy spirit yea yea.. but God isnt Three things. thats what people are made to believe that he's three things. He is not, he is one.. He is not three different thigns. What i meant by that is, people praise to a holy spirt, and a holy Ghost, when you should praise only God. Yes praise Jesus, but dont forget to Praise God, because God created every single thing that exist, including Jesus. oh n before Jesus, there was God.. yea..

p.s. bout the trinity thing.. God is a Holy Spirit, Jesus is Not God, but is Gods truest son.
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So Jesus created earth?? no he didnt, it was God that created earth. He preached Gods words. Holy Ghost, and holy spirit yea yea.. but God isnt Three things. thats what people are made to believe that he's three things. He is not, he is one.. He is not three different thigns. What i meant by that is, people praise to a holy spirt, and a holy Ghost, when you should praise only God. Yes praise Jesus, but dont forget to Praise God, because God created every single thing that exist, including Jesus. oh n before Jesus, there was God.. yea..



Open your mind bro...You've been taught that, but it isn't scriptural. Well, it's only partially correct. Look at what the scriptures say.

John 1: In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

The God-head consist of God the father, God the son, and God the holy Ghost, each equal in power with different roles. I like to describe the Trinity as an apple. Its ONE piece of fruit, but with 3 distinct parts: core, pulp, skin. I've had discussions with people who asked, "So, are you saying God is schizophrenic?" Not only are they clowns for being facetious, but that's not even what schizophrenia is. Anyway, God did create the heavens and the earth. I ask you though, how did he do it? I'll tell you. He did it by SPEAKING IT INTO EXISTENCE. Example: LET THERE BE LIGHT. That means the word. THe new testament teaches us that Jesus is the word of God. That's why John said: "...and the word WAS GOD." It then goes on to say how all things were made by him. He's referring to Jesus bro. So, Jesus is God.
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Here is that scripture in full:

John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.



John is clearly talking about Jesus.
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Yes, I was taught that.. and you were taught something else.. so who says whos right??? Im just stating what I believe, as what you are doing.. dont see nothign wrong with that
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Yes, I was taught that.. and you were taught something else.. so who says whos right??? Im just stating what I believe, as what you are doing.. dont see nothign wrong with that




no no no son...relax and open your mind...You heard that...But, the scriptures don't back that up because it's only partially true. God made everything. But, everything was made through his word. Who is the word of god? Jesus is the word of God. Jesus is God. The text does not support what you're saying. All throughout the New Testament Jesus is validated as being God and having all power. Don't resolve to being ignorant because what I'm saying defies what you've been taught all your life.
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So you saying my family's stupid for teaching me wut they know???? Who says the bibble "you" read is right??? who knows exactly?? Why should I say "holy mary, mother of God, blah blah blah" who says your suppose to say that?? you dont gotta say all that stuff to pray to God.. n thats what i was taught. u were taught of that by the bibble "you" read.. n u still stand there saying what im saying is wrong.. nah man.. u dont have the right to say that.. i say wut i believe is right, u say what you believe is right.. nah man u ignorant for even calling me that..
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