u know what...im tired of this bull shit.....kids judge rapper by lyrics and lyrics alone.....

id rather listen to Ja Rule........than the dopest lyricist in the world who has no presence, delivery, or good flow

i seen an argument about kanye west in another thread...shit is insane...dude has a killer delivery, presence...and just the way he comes across on the mic is brilliant....his lyrics...are decent...but i still love his music...cause he has a certain level of decency lyrically...and everything else is supurb

you wont find a bigger talib, mos def, and common fan than me.....but the fact of the matter is this...people dont wanna hear complex ass lyrics....keep your lyrics decent...and work on diff aspects.....like flow, delivery, and presence....

as long as your lyrics are ok...it dont matter.....cause nobody wants to hear that bullshit....about the dynamic circumference of the unviverse persuj[qiewjf ewhfhe......words mo fos aint never heard before.....

SO PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE ''OH IF HES NOT THE BEST LYRICIST IN THE WORLD, THAT MEANS HES NOT GOOD AT ALL"...SHIT IS FUCKING REDICULOUS...I LIKE ALL RAPPERS WHO KEEP LYRICS DECENT...AND STILL PULL EVERYTHING ELSE OFF WELL.....

i hate 50 cent...because he has no lyrical skill whatsoever...but...people like kanye...are good for the game.........but please people....keep lyrics decent...work on complex flow and shit....stuff people wanna hear.....

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I agree with you completely.

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Kanye is only average on a music level...
But hey, I am really hard to please because I'm a tough music critic and I'm NOT a fan...

Which means I never respond to hype, only skill...

I like rappers who have it all... From good lyrics, good music to a good movement backing them. Kanye has proven in the past that hes not worth my time of day.. His shit is for fans, and fans only... Same with dipset, Jay Z, Badboy, Young Jeezy, etc etc etc etc and all those cats that arnt really skilled but just make shit fans can vibe with..

I got a REAL broard taste in music... I give everything a chance once... So my opinions are my own, not what I been told... Love it or hate it, thats just how it is.

And no... I dont listen to rappers that just spit a bunch of mumbo jumbo with big words trynna impress people.....

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word nos...i feel u....i kinda look at music as a fan...and as a critic...

like..what i try to do..is put out exactly what i want to put out...and please fans at the same time...its hard to explain....

but i def feel where your coming from...im not criticizing you for cracking down on horrid lyricists....i wish that the game was full of lyrical beasts with every aspect killing it.....but its just not the way its ever gonna be...i try to get the best of both worlds though....

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Well...for 1 kanye has ghost & co writers to help him..when you hear kanye repeat the same word to rhyme wit the previous line like camron does..thats when u hearing kanye's tru lyrical capibilities......2....reason people make that arguement is cuz if lyrics didnt matter any jackass could go to barnes & nobles an buy a rhyme book....learn to flow decent an be considered a rapper---->i.e. mike jones.......I agree that flow an delivery is important...but lyrics are equally as important.....kats that use big words alot of times lack substance but provide the illusion of depth cuz people dun understand what they saying, being able to creatively word oridinary occurences in ya life...is a artform.....sayin exactly what u would say in a everyday conversation an putting a rhyme at the end of it....its a dr. seuss book.....if u aint got lyrics u cant rap...do u gotta be the best NO...do u have to have sum ability yes....Kanye west has NONE...Ja rule....BUAWWWWWW..u really wylin....when u write a metaphorless, punchlineless, wordplayless verse your disrespecting hip hop.....so if u jus aren't compabile of writing something that any reg. joe couldn't...."put the mic down so a real talent can use it properly"

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LMAO....yea ja rule....i wish i had his voice....

but i can honestly say this....bro yao is lyrically better than ja rule...but id rather listen to ja rule for a year straight than sit through 24 hours worth of bro yao lmao

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Well when u talk voices thats personal preferance....but to say ja rule is talented cuz he has a grtty voice is fucking retarded.

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lmao nah......im not saying hes talented at all...i just like his voice lol

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^^so your telling me you would buy his cd cuz u like his voice?....thats all it takes to impress u?

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how do you know kanye west has host writers and co writers?
I never EVER heard no shit like that.
and he didnt say lyrics didnt matter COMPLETELY, he said decent lyrics can be backed the fuck up with a dope ass delivery and presence on the mic, such as Kanye West have.
and yes, if you dont have lyrics you cant rap
but if you dont have delivery, YOU CANT RAP EITHER!
and I rather listen to ALL of Kanye West songs than just yours Triple N.
Kanye West is the truth!

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no....ive never bought a ja cd...never will......

i just like his voice...thats all lol

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Son....kanye west shouted out his co writer for jesus walks at the grammys...shit look on the back on his cds...it says writen by kanye west, an so on an so on........you obviously dun keep up wit hip hop news if u dun know kanye has ALOT of help wit his lyrics.....an yes flow an delivery is important...no one said it isn't.....but it isn't everything, thats like if we was talkign basketball an kanye is desmond mason, desmond is a phenominal dunker wit crazy hops, then u got canibus, who's Kobe who is a great dunker, shooter, defender, etc now who u gon pick first, the guy that has only mastered a part of the game? or the guy who has mastered it all?.

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Okay then....now your arguement makes no sense.....u was saying katz like Ja should be respected, yet u wont ever buy one of his cds

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damn, you right
rhymefest DID help him write jesus walks
but a co writer ISNT a ghost writer
a co writer isnt like what you think.
and Kanye West HAS mastered it all.
what DONT he got?

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