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Old 12-02-07, 04:05 PM   #1
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"The Art of War" by Sun Tzu is...

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perhaps the most useful book I've read since the bible itself...


I love it...

I was wonderin tho...Let's say hypothetically everyone reads the book...Then, how does anyone break a stalemate...?

Then, true to form, Sun Tzu provides an answer for that...


READ IT YALL...

and, if you have already read it, READ IT AGAIN!





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Old 12-02-07, 04:11 PM   #2
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Read it once a month.
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Old 12-02-07, 04:33 PM   #3
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apply it to arguments with your girlfriend
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Old 12-02-07, 06:34 PM   #4
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Aren't books like that against the Christian church?

Well not against... But condemned as sacrilegious?

If you've moved past that nonsense, you might want to check out some of the other Chinese classics, or stuff from Lao Tzu or Chuang Tzu.
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Old 12-02-07, 06:45 PM   #5
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i read that the artof war was found with a bunch of other strategic texts ... does anyone remember what they go by and know where to find them
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Old 12-02-07, 06:52 PM   #6
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I'm not sure. Here's a list of some other Chinese classics though:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cfu/

I recommend reading the I Ching.
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Old 12-02-07, 06:55 PM   #7
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Old 12-02-07, 09:47 PM   #8
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Aren't books like that against the Christian church?

Well not against... But condemned as sacrilegious?

If you've moved past that nonsense, you might want to check out some of the other Chinese classics, or stuff from Lao Tzu or Chuang Tzu.



No..."books like that" aren't against the Christian Church...

I think u may be confusing man-made doctrine and dogma for scripture...


The bible portrays Satan as a "cunning enemy"...It would make sense to understand the nature of Warfare in beating any enemy, Spiritual or otherwise...



Wow @ how Catholicism and other "denominations" have tainted the actual scriptures in the bible.


God isn't a wimp and neither are Christians intended to be. That perception stems from weak-minded individuals.

Not saying you are a weak-minded individual, but the people who perpetuate the nonsensical views of the ineptness of believers.

Furthermore, in my opinion, I feel that Catholicism is the single worst calamity to ever happen in the history of Christianity.


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No..."books like that" aren't against the Christian Church...

I think u may be confusing man-made doctrine and dogma for scripture...


The bible portrays Satan as a "cunning enemy"...It would make sense to understand the nature of Warfare in beating any enemy, Spiritual or otherwise...



Wow @ how Catholicism and other "denominations" have tainted the actual scriptures in the bible.


God isn't a wimp and neither are Christians intended to be. That perception stems from weak-minded individuals.

Not saying you are a weak-minded individual, but the people who perpetuate the nonsensical views of the ineptitude of believers.

Furthermore, in my opinion, I feel that Catholicism is the single worst calamity to ever happen in the history of Christianity.


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Don't be sorry for thinking something stupid!

It's clear you didn't use your head with that one.

I can give you 4 or more terrible things under the definition of 'calamity' that sprung off from Christianity. First and most recent?

the Salem Witch Trials.
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Don't be sorry for thinking something stupid!

It's clear you didn't use your head with that one.

I can give you 4 or more terrible things under the definition of 'calamity' that sprung off from Christianity. First and most recent?

the Salem Witch Trials.




^NO...you've misinterpreted...I didn't say the single worst thing to stem FROM Christianity...I said the single worst thing to happen TO christianity. That's what I meant...


BTW...speaking on wut ur saying...I think the Crusades would be deemed more catastrophic than any Salem Witch hunt or trial.


Christianity has been abused throughout the ages...People have used it to justify everything from slavery to homicide. Anyway, the overlying theme of the bible is seeking guidance from God. But, there's nothing in the bible that says Christians should be misinformed, quite the contrary.



Difference.





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No..."books like that" aren't against the Christian Church...

I think u may be confusing man-made doctrine and dogma for scripture...


The bible portrays Satan as a "cunning enemy"...It would make sense to understand the nature of Warfare in beating any enemy, Spiritual or otherwise...



Wow @ how Catholicism and other "denominations" have tainted the actual scriptures in the bible.


God isn't a wimp and neither are Christians intended to be. That perception stems from weak-minded individuals.

Not saying you are a weak-minded individual, but the people who perpetuate the nonsensical views of the ineptness of believers.

Furthermore, in my opinion, I feel that Catholicism is the single worst calamity to ever happen in the history of Christianity.


Sorry


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I meant Christian Church like... The man-made establishment that represents Christians. Or perhaps misrepresents Christians might be a better way to put it. Books like that aren't against the core values a Christian should have. I was unsure whether you identified yourself with the establishment or the core values, now it's obvious to me that it's the latter.
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I meant Christian Church like... The man-made establishment that represents Christians. Or perhaps misrepresents Christians might be a better way to put it. Books like that aren't against the core values a Christian should have. I was unsure whether you identified yourself with the establishment or the core values, now it's obvious to me that it's the latter.



I mean...yea...u gotta know when to hold em and when to fold em...


Shakespeare had the audacity to insert his damn name into the bible...in Psalm 46


UGH..so, yea, I'm def. a believer in the core values and message of Christ...hence, Christianity...lol...too many crackpots in the world tho...

See "The Mist"? lol





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So, with by your logic, did George Bush stem from America or happen to it?
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Old 12-02-07, 11:55 PM   #14
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Maybe everything that happens to America stems from it, and everything that stems from America happens to it?

But anyway, nah I didn't see The Mist. What is it about?
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Maybe everything that happens to America stems from it, and everything that stems from America happens to it?

But anyway, nah I didn't see The Mist. What is it about?



^^It's a Stephen King tale about mutated insects that terrorize a town when a "mist" descends upon it...


But, there's this one lady who decideds to preach a fire and brimestone message in the "midst" of it all...

Becomes a cultist...it's actually pretty hilarious




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