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Old 08-02-05, 08:50 PM   #16
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I've Been Seeing Alot Of People On Here...Jus Strait Up Denying God's Existence....


Well..I Wanna Know Why...How Could You Deny....

I'm Not Judging You Really..But If You Give Your Reasons, With God's Help..I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me (Phillipians 4:13) And I Can Help Disprove Those "Theories", Because God IS Real...He IS Coming For His Believers And The Time IS Now...
And That's From A 15 Year Old Girl..Not A 76 Year Old Preacha Man!...


So Ya'll Drop That...
Ima Pray About It...That God Uses Me...And Ya'll Drop Reasons For Unbelieve...

And To Start It Off...
Those Who Say, "I Aint Neva Seent Him..He Can't Be Real"...Jesus Sed Its Mo Blessed And There's A Greater Reward For Those Who Believe And Haven't Seen..Then Those Who HAve Seen N Believe...
And We Walk By Faith, Not By Sight....


SOooooo Drop That...
Um..If You Believe In MY God..My Savior..My Father...My Daddy...Den Could You Pray Also..And Help me Out....

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but how can you say your god (christian, im assuming) is the one and only, when there are like thousands of other religions that say other wise.....you can't force or sway decisions of people because of what you think, thats called a dictatorship....lol, its all in your belief

well this is how i feel about this, i believe there is god out there, but my views are alot different and less defined, as you will.....basically what i try and do, is just be a good person, living by your own rules, word.
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Old 08-02-05, 08:50 PM   #17
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Na i havent....


watch it, its dope.
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Old 08-02-05, 08:52 PM   #18
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first of all y da fuck do ppl keep talkin vgod n tryna make ppl beleive??? its upto da person wat dey wanna do... secondly i dont come from a relegious background... i dont beleive simply cos if vgod existed and god did so much good for people in need.. y does stuff contantly go bad for me???
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Old 08-02-05, 08:52 PM   #19
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I will^.

and to truth,

do you really think if theres a god only people who pray and believe will go to heaven, well thats pathetic...what if somebody was born on a desert island with no understanding of religion, never even heard of it.... does that mean theyre going to hell?
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Old 08-02-05, 09:51 PM   #20
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nah ...........................


i'll be back to retort wit wisdome........


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Old 08-02-05, 10:57 PM   #21
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ok maybe this will help you guys

God has plans for everyone..plans that he made even before you were born..it says so in the Bible..if you look in Jeremiah you will see it..now sometimes..we like to say.."hey this is my life. let me do what i want to do."..when we act like that..we change the outcome of our lives..God has plans for you..its just up to you to take your hands off the driving wheel and let God direct you in the right path..


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Old 08-03-05, 10:46 AM   #22
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i don't believe in a god
read my thoughts on the matter here:
http://community.rapverse.com/showp...91&postcount=74
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Old 08-03-05, 02:04 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Denied Truth

I've Been Seeing Alot Of People On Here...Jus Strait Up Denying God's Existence....


Well..I Wanna Know Why...How Could You Deny....

I'm Not Judging You Really..But If You Give Your Reasons, With God's Help..I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me (Phillipians 4:13) And I Can Help Disprove Those "Theories", Because God IS Real...He IS Coming For His Believers And The Time IS Now...
And That's From A 15 Year Old Girl..Not A 76 Year Old Preacha Man!...


So Ya'll Drop That...
Ima Pray About It...That God Uses Me...And Ya'll Drop Reasons For Unbelieve...

And To Start It Off...
Those Who Say, "I Aint Neva Seent Him..He Can't Be Real"...Jesus Sed Its Mo Blessed And There's A Greater Reward For Those Who Believe And Haven't Seen..Then Those Who HAve Seen N Believe...
And We Walk By Faith, Not By Sight....


SOooooo Drop That...
Um..If You Believe In MY God..My Savior..My Father...My Daddy...Den Could You Pray Also..And Help me Out....

Chuuch
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theres no proof any1 couldve written the bible
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Old 08-03-05, 05:09 PM   #24
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Referring to the cat who sed what if they was on da desert island and never herd...we all cud ride with "what ifs" forever...but accountable is based on those who have heard...and every has heard officially if they read this thread....because..i'm saying that God loves you ...died for you and wants you to come to heaven to be with him eternally if u only believe in him..and live for him...

for my manz who sed bad shit always happenin to him and young teens die and pedophiles live....God has a plan for everyone...maybe that Teen had to die for someone else to come back to God or come to God....and perhaps the pedophile lives so he can have a testimony of deliverance....why bad shtuff happens to good people is all for a reason..my first name is Jesus and my last name aint Christ so i can't tell u why...

To my manz Tito...thankyou for bein wit me on this...cuz i was feelin kinda lonely for a minute...hold em up for me...if u could answer my manz who thinks that accepting Christ will limit his life...if u cud help me with that..cuz what i have to say is...i've accepted Christ and live for Christ and i aint missed nuffin..i went to a Christian Sports Camp in Missouri free of charge and went to crunk parties erynite..only thing wasn't there was weed or liquor.......i get to ball matta fact i'm one of da better hoopstas in the 512 area...i play 4 instruments..i can spit....my dad lets me do what i want within reason...i can do anything u can do..plus i have protection..security..joy...love...and i get to be with Jesus when i die...

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Old 08-03-05, 05:10 PM   #25
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Tito drop what u feel on all dese questions brah...

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II COR. 12:9
And He Said To Me, "My Grace Is Sufficient For You, For My Strength Is Made Perfect In Weakness." Therefore, I Will Rather Most Gladly Boast In My Infirmities, So That The Power Of God May Rest Upon Me.
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Old 08-04-05, 10:12 PM   #26
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http://community.rapverse.com/showthread.php?t=201255
^^denied truth, please read this
if u are online often (at least once every 3 days) and u are up for it, i could set up a debate (details in link above) thread on this issue- u arguing for the existence of a god, me against it. if ur up for it, pm me and i'll set up the thread and post the rules
u seem to take the issue seriously, and i have a lot of thoughts on it, and it would be a good way to promote my idea, so why not
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Old 08-04-05, 10:46 PM   #27
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Different religions are kind of like different points of view...

If a guy is in a car crash and barely survives..
A Christian would say it was a miracle and God saved him..
An Athiest would just shrug it off..

Christians believe that God fine-tuned the universe and the earth so we could live here.. Its a fact that even small changes in temperature levels or gas amounts would make the earth unable to sustain life...
But others could say the Earth just so happened to be suited for life and a coincidence created us because the conditions were right...

Life isnt all that complicated. You just need a few gases, some water, and an electric shock and it creates amino acids which make up proteins which are the building blocks of life... Scientists have done it. Its easy...

I really don't get how christians can believe so wholeheartedly in their religion. It doesnt even make sense compared to other religions..

Christianity:
- Started more than 2000 years ago.
- To get to heaven you have to believe in Jesus.
- God's son is God and also a spirit, they are all seperate entities but are the same entity.
- As long as you believe in him, God forgives you for your sins.
- All bad thoughts, bad actions, and bad occurances are caused by the devil. (if you dont believe me, look it up.)
- God is vengeful and his wrath is unmatchable. He killed everyone in the world with a flood because they didnt live how he wanted.
- God loves every living thing and his grace is so immense it cannot even be imagined, he lets us live how we want.
(???.... riiiiigghht...)

Buddhism:
- Technically a branch of hinduism, which is older than christianity.
- Our personality or soul/self, does not exist. Our persona is a collection of thoughts and feelings which creates an illusion of personality.
- The aim of life is not to be happy it is to be content.
- All suffering is caused by wanting useless things. If you dont want to be happy, you wont be sad that you arent happy. If you dont want a really expensive car, you wont be pissed off cos you cant have it. If you are happy and you want to stay happy, you will be sad because you know you cant stay happy forever. So the key is to not want anything.
- Life is full of suffering, and bliss is obtained by getting out of the cycle of life.
- To get out of the cycle of life you have to live correctly and realise the truth.

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Personally, i'd rather be a buddhist and live at peace. I'm not a buddhist though, or a christian....

But can a christian PLEASE explain to me what made you believe?
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Old 08-05-05, 05:50 AM   #28
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I believe in God because of what I experienced at a church camp recently. I think that until you actually experience it, you will question Christianity forever. I used to question God all the time. But once I left that camp, my views have changed a lot. I know this may not seem like much to you. But I think until you experience it, you will never understand it.
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Old 08-05-05, 10:23 AM   #29
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if u didnt believe in god before, why were u at a church camp?
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Old 08-05-05, 04:38 PM   #30
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but accountable is based on those who have heard


see, now i dont like that statement.....because all your basing your whole faith off of, is what someone else heard, from someone else......going down eons, nah mean?

like, what if back in the day, someone just sat down one day, and made all this up, i know i know, you're gunna come at me with "you just gotta believe"....well thats all opinion you're basing decisions off of now, not faith........so basically, when you think about it, religion is all personal choice, there shouldn't be a right or wrong.....there shouldn't be anything manipulating our brains and manifesting the way we percieve the world

but basically, how i like to think is......live your own life, believe in what you want to believe....but don't have regrets

i believe there is a god, and that there might be a heaven, for when i die, i can continue to live happily....but worrying about that shit now will only strain you from what you can accomplish with your life, may even hold you back from your true potential....whatever, this is a never ending argument, one of the many in the world.....

keep up to those have their own opinions, word.

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God loves every living thing and his grace is so immense it cannot even be imagined, he lets us live how we want
(???...riiiiight....)


lets us live how we want, yet we have people changing their whole lives, abandoning previous dreams and ambitions, all for him, not even having sound proof he even truly exists......right, thats letting people live for themselves, lmlo!

word to OMB

and to reflekt....i've experienced god, been to bible camps and shit, but you gotta experience the rest of the world too, like, seriously, i've seen christianity used for a lot of people just as an escape from their previous lives, because it was so hard, so they turn to the bible and its followers, because "there are no hardships when you walk with god".....

word, keep up.
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