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exactly...it's a theory based on the observable laws which are today and the only observable stage of evolution we see is stage 6 evolution which is micro-evolution we cant study the previous 5 stages of evolution because we didnt have the technology to study them OR we may ot have been here to do study them...do you honestly think its possible with todays observable laws that "nothing could explode into everything?"
what he is doing is preaching, plain and simple...what im saying is if you look at the arguments he puts across to debunk the evolution theory, you can make up an interesting debate without the whole God loves you stuff in between
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There is solid proof for evolution... I taught Biology for a while, and I can tell you that while they don't know everything about it, they know a lot. They have basically mapped out history and found fossils of shit, including fossils known as "transition fossils," for example fossils from single creatures that have characteristics of both reptiles and birds.
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Cosmic Evolution. The development of space, time, matter and energy from nothing.
Stellar Evolution. The development of complex stars from the chaotic first elements. Chemical Evolution. The development of all chemical elements from an original two. Planetary Evolution. The development of planetary systems from swirling elements. Organic Evolution. The development of organic life from inorganic matter (a rock). Macro-Evolution. The development of one kind of life from a totally different kind of life. Micro-Evolution. The development of variations within the same kind of life.
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so youre telling me you have proof a dog came from a rock?
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You look down on rocks. This universe is not stupid, it is smart. A tree grows apples, and we don't question it. We just look at the tree and see that apples grow from it. Bacteria grows in/on animals or nutrients or whatever else, it's just what it does. Hair grows on our bodies..
Just because we are able to think, doesn't make us any different from the rest of the universe. An apple tree grows apples, that's what it does. An Earth grows people, that's what it does. Of course, the seed of a tree looks nothing like an apple tree with apples on it, and of course, a mere rock doesn't look like a dog. You are thinking in a shallow way about these things.
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i know it's smart and i know we dont know how smart it is but apple trees grow apples because it's what they're designed to do...we can question how apple trees came to be but lets use an apple tree as an example... apple trees grow different variations of apples...big ones small ones etc...but they'll always be apples and they are all linked to a common ancestor...an apple tree...what the creationist believes is that while YES there are variations of other animals through genetic mutation (cross breeding/natural selecton) their common ancestor will always be that type of animal so for example...a german shepard, chiwawa & greyhounds common ancestor will be a wolf...NOT a rock because it is not proven fact that macro-evolution (where one species of animal changes into a different species) exists or certainly we havent seen it yet...
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Oh, I see where this dude is coming from now..
Look up comparative embryology.
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he challenges that as well mate...the gill slit in the human diagram is not a gill slit it's early development of the ear which to be fairis mentioned in texbooks but the "gill slit" is apparantly not ancestral by any means...the diagram when it was first made was an "artists impression" and even though we know what foetuses look like in the developmental stage, the artists impression is still used in some science books.
Seriously just look it up & watch it
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I don't want to waste bandwidth on it. -_-
Hmm.. What does he say about pentadactyl limbs?
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^ watch it and find out man there's no point in debating over something if you're not overly clear on the subject
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Does he even say anything about pentadactyl limbs?
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....i've been gone for this long and this is the best fucking debate i come back too???
pfffff...i say PFFFFFFHHHH!!!! AT ALL YOu!!! ANOTHER WHACK CHRISTIAN DEBATE??? WHO CARES???!!! WE ALL DIE!!!! GET OVER IT!!
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lol teru you always say have an open mind, why don't you have an open mind and watch what he says?
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I told you, I don't want to waste bandwidth... I have to conserve it until the 24th of the month.
I'm not even saying he's wrong, and from what I can see what he's saying makes sense, but I don't know much about his side of the argument. I want to know what he says about pentadactyl limbs... Is that such a crime?
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