yeah definately mike can rap....ill as well. i dont like linkin park....too industrialised now...hybrid theory was good but everything after that sucks apart from faint on meteora (their 2nd album) his track with x-ecutioners was nice

zack de la rocha definately he shud make an impact.....i love RATM...everyone got talent.....and zack's been doin stuff wit krs1 and the last emperor.....that's gotta say something bout him....he's also doing his solo album with trent reznor (the lead singer of nine inch nails)...i cant wait for zack's album to drop.......hope he goes political as well

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he is an mc

If he's not an MC, wtf is he then?

If he raps, he's an MC. Simple. doesnt matter what the beats, subject matter, or other talents he's got. I personally like Linkin Park alot, one of the best rock/rap out there... although I agree that meteora wasnt as good as Hybrid Theory...

I agree.....Meteora wasnt as good as Hybrid Theory.....But i think Mike Shinoda can do big things in the Hip Hop game with the right people. Some may not agree but i know some will.....He has very good talent.....An I personally like the hip hop influence in other genres of music wouldnt you agree?

hell yeah he a mC,dude is NICe,i like his ish, nice lyrics,nice style, thats all i got to say............................................... .....................

Dude Got Skillz

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he's a good mc indeed. i liked meteora though, but only mainly cos of songs like faint, and some other's i can't remember the names of. gotta love linkin park though. they're dj's good to.

Linkin Park's cool~~~

i dont really like him..i guess hes ok for being in a 'rock-rap' band. his lyrics are average and his delivery sucks

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i gotts agree with comments about his delivery though, but then how energized are u gonna sound when doing a song called crawling? would sound out of place if he was all bouncy in his delivery.

Playjahrizer - i dont really like him..i guess hes ok for being in a 'rock-rap' band. his lyrics are average and his delivery sucks

you didnt see the lyrics posted on the first page of this thread did you? His lyrics were great in Hybrid Theory.. his delivery lags but his lyrics are great, you cant deny that.

and wtf is "for a rock/rap" band supposed to mean? Cmon man, does it really matter what company you keep? your lyrics and flow dont change just because your friends play a guitar

I agree wit just abut everything you said.......Playjahrizer, youve probably only heard LP's mainstream shit, you should try to go an listen to these songs: "High Voltage" , "High Voltage (Remix) (check 1st page of thread for lyrics) , Part of Me , Its Goin Down , and Step Up......You should also try out the REANIMATION Album which has alot of there song remixed to sound Hip Hop......If you dont think these lyrics are sick? Theyres something wrong:

Step Up
Verse 1
Yo
Watch as the room rocks
Mantally moon walk
Mixed media slang
Banging in your boom box
Verbal violence lyrical stylist
In a time when rock hip hop rhymes are childish
You can't tempt me with rhymes that are empty
Rapping to a beat doesn't make you an emcee
With your lack of skill and facility
You're killing me
And a DJ in the group just for credibility
I heard that some of you are getting help with your rhymes
You're not an emcee if someone else writes your lines
And rapping over rock doesn't make you a pioneer
Cause rock and hip hop have collaborated for years
But now they're getting randomly mixed and matched up
All after a fast buck and all the tracks suck
So how does it stack up - None of it's real
You want to be an emcee you've got to study the skill

Verse 2
So you pick up a pen and write yourself a new identity
But mentally you don't have the hip hop energy
With a tendency to make up stories
Sounding like the only hip hop you've heard is top 40 (top 40)
And your record company is completely missing it
All the kids are dissing it for not being legitimate
So in a battle you can't hack it
React with whack shit
And get smacked with verbal back flips
Get your ass kicked by fabulous battle catalysts
It's taken decades for emcees to establish this
You're new to hip hop and welcome if your serious
But not on the mic
Leave that to the experienced

in lyricist lounge i forgot which one.
Zack de la roca spits with KRS one. pretty nice. different but the fucker is unique

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His lyrics are dope no lie. If he spit with more fire in his delivery he could be alot better than what he is now. I think he'd have a wider fan base if he went solo changed his style a bit, but kept his lyrics on the same level.

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http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105181
http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113861

Good lyrics.
Bad personality.
Group holds him down?