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Old 01-29-04, 10:38 PM   #1
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And think about it, the republicans are rumored conservatives, but why..must I ask, would George Bush (undoubtedly a republican) jump to such a radical opposition, and aimlessly (yet coincidentally) throw our soldiers at an overthrown and violent country ( Iraq) without any proof what so ever of either one of his causes...(oil, liberation, WOMD). It seems the people are worse off with an asshole as a reconstruction leader than a jackass for an ex-president. ASS ASS ASS.


^ Goerge Bush only acted where other administrations did not. The pressure from the intellegence communities (does not imply US only) was the same as that applied to Clinton. Bush felt, as so many analyst still do, the threat was real enough to take action. Clinton was approached the same way, he decided not to take action. Weasly Clark once upon a time, also pushed for an invasion of Iraq, yet today he is standing against the war. He has done a completle 180, in hopes to have a better chance at his election run. I doubt anyone who followed the mans career will be fooled by his actions as of today. My point is everyone in our defense sector thought Saddam was working towards or had the weapons. If the most informed peole of this and other nations felt the threat was credable, our President had to react. If not, and some poor nation was nuked, everyone would be looking to Bush for reasons he did nothing to prevent such an ordeal. Either way the President did what so many informed counter parts deemed necesary. How can things be worse than having that monster rule of his people? In the latest gallup pol, over 80 percent of the population in Bagdad respect our actions. Only those in the liberal medai have introduced polls based on reactions of those found protesting our occupation of Iraq. There was no cross section of any large city or towns, only those that were asked on that given day. I say that is just crap, so who is really fooling who?
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(haha, I amaze my self...I couldn't give two shits about this country, or the people...but the influence of patriotism on me for the past 3 years (since 9.11) is indeed overwhelming


^ Next how can I take anything some who has no concern for their country serious. I know that was just a sign of maturaty, but please be thankfull for the blessings we have in this country.

Well ghod, it looks like the Dems are going to have to wait for '08', which I predicted along time ago. I can see Hilary as their best shot, if they don't play that card this year. You know Keary/Hilary ticket... Would make up the slack and really add some numbers. I am not sure if the party is bold enough to make this move, or if Hilary is ready to share the ticket. She might want her very own in 2008. Remember she may face off against Jeb Bush, and the possiblity of Condi on that ticket would excite so many. So right now I think the Democratic camp is focusing on 08... They know Bush is going to be tough to beat this time around. I like Keary but I am not buying into his health care issue, he has blown that out of the water for me. Either way this is very interesting to watch...
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Old 01-29-04, 10:45 PM   #2
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Do you really think that women on the presidential ticket is a foreseeable event in the near future? Christ. . If Condi is at any position higher than she is now, I will die.
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Old 01-30-04, 12:40 AM   #3
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Do you really think that women on the presidential ticket is a foreseeable event in the near future? Christ. . If Condi is at any position higher than she is now, I will die.


Yes, I really do see the woman on the ticket in the future. It really doesn't matter that I see this, but every political analist is talking about the very same. I mean, yeah when I first had the idea, I was in this by myself, but after a year or two the buzz started. I flipped out wheh I first caught news of this buzz, I mean damn who would of thought it. I know I did, but a real wisper in washingtons political circles, I mean come on. I was besides myself, I think I did the happy dance. J/K But yeah, I really think this a solid possiblity. You know Hilary wants the top job, I mean the lady is drooling over the thought. Some how it's sad, but I see a woman in office before an african american, that's just the way it looks from my perspective. Like I said, sad but more than likely true...

Ghod, what you got against Condi, cuz if you have an issue with her it must be good. The woman is practically untouchble on any level, I would never step to her. I have so much respect for the lady. I wondering what you're going to tell me about her. Either way, I would rather have Condi over Hilary any day...
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Old 01-29-04, 10:50 PM   #4
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My point is everyone in our defense sector thought Saddam was working towards or had the weapons. If the most informed peole of this and other nations felt the threat was credable, our President had to react. If not, and some poor nation was nuked, everyone would be looking to Bush for reasons he did nothing to prevent such an ordeal.

^the fact is..
saddam has no WoMD as the media love to call it
bushs so called 'intelligence' in fact turned out to be fucking idiots cos the evidence for any weapons was non existent and went on assumptions and the 'but we need oil' reasoning
theres countless other nations where dictators treat their country like shit but unless theres something in it for bush and his cronies theres no action taken
take mugabe for example..
the whole thing was a sham
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Old 01-30-04, 01:07 AM   #5
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the fact is..
saddam has no WoMD as the media love to call it
bushs so called 'intelligence' in fact turned out to be fucking idiots cos the evidence for any weapons was non existent and went on assumptions



OK I take personnel offense at this comment. Not only are you way off base here, you just called me an idiot. Yes, I am part of the "Idiot Intellegence" as you have called it. What do you know about the community that gives you reason to lable it "idoits"? Are you doing anything to contribute to it? Have you risked life and limb, just to help paint a better picture? I mean tell me why you call it Bush's intellegence, when it was the very same intel community and intel it's self, that approached Clinton. Yet no one on the left wants to talk about that. Evidence non existant, wrong again, only the weapons have been non existant, so far. It's been proven the weapons were in existance, it's been proven the program was in existance. What's really important here is the proff that they WERE destroyed, is non existant! Saddam was obligated via cease fire regulations and Un resolutions, to offer up prof of these KNOWN weapons being destroyed. Was there any documented prof? I think not! That my friend is grounds to reengage in war with his regime. The UN and international law experts everywhere understand this to be true, why do you think no letigation has been brought up against the US. It's actions were complelty legal and warrented. I agree with most of you, War is a horrible thing. Human evil has been the worlds problem from day one, and it still is today, bringing down Saddam lessoned that factor of evil in the world. If the liberation of good people from an evil dictator is not a responsibilty of the United states, then it must be looked at as a duty.

Bottom line is: World with Saddam= Evil
World without Saddam = less evil.
Makes sense to me...
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Old 01-29-04, 11:03 PM   #6
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only thing i got 2 say is that....

DEAN ROCKS!!!!!!!!

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