LMAO, ya'll be ridin pacs dead dick too much...

I kno pac is great, and Babylon i have been listenin to pac, and i dont have to be old like you to appreciate him. Yes if Pac was alive, he may have been considered better, but then again maybe he would've run out of shit who knows? All i kno is Nas is alive, and has been droppin hot shit, far better than anyone else for his whole career, so im not playin " what ifs" and sayin " what if pac was alive" cuz he aint, and I think back in the day Nas was still better than pac...

i don't think Pac is overrated.

Now Biggie was garbage "i'm not from Houston but i Rap-A-Lot"
that's about the shittiest punchline i've ever heard. He was ABC, and gets wayyyyy too much credit.

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"if it makes dollars, it makes cense"

I AGREE^ BIG L WAS MUCH BETTER..

"your nobody till somebody kills you"

the apparent person who was once a great friend of pac and seemed an enemy even though he was nt really. . .said it. . .

your nobody till somebody kills you. . .
people liked pac, but they loved him when he died

it's one of those things where u dont know what u got till its gone. . .
but pac is over rated he was a good artist but goddammit let the man rest. . .
R.I.P

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whatchu' talkin' 'bout? ? ?

Welcome To The New Generation . . .

"Put A Sock In It. . . With Your Fake Ass Tupac Image!"

Regarding all the Pac bs: Pac didn't have that good of a flow, but he was an excellent writer. He was a poet, and he could touch so many different people on many different levels. As an em cee, he might be overrated. However, as an artist.. he's not. His lyrics are great. He did have some golden moments as an em cee too though. 'So Many Tears' is an example of that. Perfect flow, perfect beat, perfect everything.

Now.. overrated = Eminem, 50, Snoop Dogg

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nah man... Rakim, Kool G Rap, Grandmaster Flash, Tribe Called Quest,BDP, Kane... i could keep going on allllll spat with emotion before 2Pac came out with his first album...

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Get Off The Bandwagon.

Run out of shit? Clearly, you don't appreciate him for what he's worth if your think'n he'd run out shit, He died in 96 and they've released albums almost every year that he's died thats over 130, no other rapper around spent more time in a studio that Pac did and you think he's gonna run out of shit??? Ya, OKAY.

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I'm not sayin he would've, i was jus playin the " what if's " like ya'll were, and yes i do respect pac, and i do appreciate his music, but you cant just speculate what he woul've been like if he was alive. And Nas is better at lyrically than Pac, he is smarter than Pac, he was also better at rapping than Pac was, Nas' flow kills Pac's, so ya'll get off pac's dick cuz there are better rappers out there...

Black Plague, i'm glad I merked you in a battle..

AND YOU'RE AN IDIOT TO SAY NAS IS SMARTER THAN PAC.. PAC'S MOM USED TO MAKE PAC READ THE NEW YORK TIMES FOR PUNISHMENT..

BREAK DOWN THE PHILOSIPHY OF KILLUMINATI AND I'LL TAKE IT THAT YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND HIS INTELLIGENCE.. WHO WAS NICOLO MAKIAVELI, TELL ME, IF YOU CAN'T THEN HOW CAN YOU MEASURE EITHER ONE OF THERE BRAIN CAPACITIES..


IT IS ALWAYS THE WHACK MC'S THAT HATE ON PAC.. (I KNOCKED HIM OUT)..
PAC IS UNDERRATED, COZ I FEEL THAT HE WAS THE PINNICAL OF RAP.. BEFORE HIM IT WASN'T AS MEANINGFUL, AND AFTER HIM, IT WENT DOWNHILL... HE WAS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL, MOST CHARASMATIC, MOST POETIC, REALIST, MOST ENERGETIC, NOW MOST POSTHUMOUS MC THAT EVER TOUCHED THE EARTH'S SOIL..
I DON'T CARE WHO AGREES WITH ME..
PAC'S LYRICS WERE TRANSCENDANT TO THOSE WHO REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE DEBTH AT WHICH THIS MAN THOUGHT..
HE WAS A FUCKING GENIUS WITH A DEADLY FLOW, AND GODLY VOICE.. VERY POWERFUL VOICE.. HIS RHYMES WERE OKAY, YET EMPHASIS WAS ON HIS METAPHORICAL EXPRESSION WHICH POETICALLY SURPASSES THE CAPABILITY OF WHO YOU PEOPLE TRY TO COMPARE 2PAC TO.
ON A TECHNICAL LEVEL HE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST MUSICIANS EVER, LET A LONE MC. HE MADE WONDERFUL AND TIMELESS MUSIC, THAT A FUCKIN IDIOT CAN'T EVEN DENY..TUPAC IS UNDERRATED IF ANYTHING, HE SHOULD BE FUCKING REVERED...
HE WAS THE FIRST RAPPER TO CREATE A FUCKING PHILOSOPHY (KILLUMINATI)..
HE WILL MANGLE ANYONE IN A FUCKIN BATTLE, EMINEM, CANIBUS, BIG, RAKIM, IMMORTAL TECH I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS..
NOT BECAUSE OF LYRICAL DEXTERITY, BUT BECAUSE OF PAC'S STRATEGICAL GENIUS.
WHO PLANS SHIT OUT, AND HE PLANNED TO FUCK BIGGIES LIFE UP TOO, WHICH HE DID.. HE LIED, YES "LIED" ABOUT FUCKIN BIGS WIFE, HE USED IT AGAINST HIM, BRAGGED ABOUT TAKING 5 SHOTS AND BLAMED IT ON BIG, THEN USED THAT AGAINST HIM, HE USED THE DISEASE THAT LIL CEASE HAD, INSULTED KIM, ROASTED NAS AND BRUSHED HIM OFF LIKE A LIL KID, HE FUCKED ALL OF EM UP..

HE LAYED DOWN THE FIRST TRACK ON ALL EYES ON ME IN 15 MINUTES AFTER WRITING THE SONG ON THE SPOT. FINISHED THE ENTIRE ALBUM IN TWO WEEKS AND WENT 8 TIMES PLATINUM.. SHUT THE FUCK UP, PAC WASN'T OVERRATED AT ALL..

NUFF SAID

R.I.P

TUPAC AMARU SHAKUR
1971-1996
THE WEST COAST MISSES YOU......

Datruth29
Black Plague, i'm glad I merked you in a battle..

AND YOU'RE AN IDIOT TO SAY NAS IS SMARTER THAN PAC.. PAC'S MOM USED TO MAKE PAC READ THE NEW YORK TIMES FOR PUNISHMENT..

nah man... you're confused, It isn't that one was smarter than another, reading a newspaper doesn't make you smart, it keeps you updated on current events... and that was kinda 2Pacs style... he was on the current events/street knowledge/ "i'm so gangsta" tip, while Nas was more on the history/drug dealer with a little street knowledge ... they were just differant, one wasn't necessarily smarter than the other...

BREAK DOWN THE PHILOSIPHY OF KILLUMINATI

Killuminati is just an Anti-Illuminati group when you break it down... anyone who knows anything about the Illuminati would be against it... nothing special

AND I'LL TAKE IT THAT YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND HIS INTELLIGENCE.. WHO WAS NICOLO MAKIAVELI, TELL ME, IF YOU CAN'T THEN HOW CAN YOU MEASURE EITHER ONE OF THERE BRAIN CAPACITIES..

and i dont know how you can measure "NICOLO MAKIAVELI"s brain capacities when you dont even spell his name right... it's Nicolo Machiavelli... and by this mistake i take it you've never read any of his philosophy books


IT IS ALWAYS THE WHACK MC'S THAT HATE ON PAC.. (I KNOCKED HIM OUT)..
PAC IS UNDERRATED, COZ I FEEL THAT HE WAS THE PINNICAL OF RAP..
... and he feels that Pac was under rated... everyone has their own opinions

BEFORE HIM IT WASN'T AS MEANINGFUL AND AFTER HIM, IT WENT DOWNHILL...

maybe to you, but to people who were listening to rap before 2Pac blew up would all disagree with you... there's plenty of people before and after him that went just as - if not deeper than him, spat with just as much - if not more emotion.... who do you think inspired 2Pac to rap? Kool G Rap, Rakim

HE WAS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL,

No he wasn't.

MOST CHARASMATIC

Negative

MOST POETIC
Debatable

REALIST
I'm hoping you're not talking his Death Row days...

MOST ENERGETIC
Ever seen Busta Rhymes on stage?

NOW MOST POSTHUMOUS MC
True, he released more CD's when he was dead than while he was alive


THAT EVER TOUCHED THE EARTH'S SOIL..
I DON'T CARE WHO AGREES WITH ME..


PAC'S LYRICS WERE TRANSCENDANT TO THOSE WHO REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE DEBTH AT WHICH THIS MAN THOUGHT..

I understand exactly what he's saying... i think "Transendent" is stretching it, but i think he's alright

HE WAS A FUCKING GENIUS WITH A DEADLY FLOW, AND GODLY VOICE.. VERY POWERFUL VOICE.. HIS RHYMES WERE OKAY, YET EMPHASIS WAS ON HIS METAPHORICAL EXPRESSION WHICH POETICALLY SURPASSES THE CAPABILITY OF WHO YOU PEOPLE TRY TO COMPARE 2PAC TO.

Surpasses the capability of who people try to compare him to? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Who are you to say what Nas,Big,Jay Z, Mos Def, Talib, Eminem (eventhough i'm not a fan), Tribe Called Quest, KRS-ONE, Rakim, shit.... even your boy down the street that doesn't have anything to record with, is capable of? By actually beliving youself with that comment is only showing your ignorance & limiting your own potential...


ON A TECHNICAL LEVEL HE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST MUSICIANS EVER, LET A LONE MC. HE MADE WONDERFUL AND TIMELESS MUSIC, THAT A FUCKIN IDIOT CAN'T EVEN DENY..TUPAC IS UNDERRATED IF ANYTHING, HE SHOULD BE FUCKING REVERED...

The same thing should be said about every other great hip hop artist, 2Pac isn't the only one that could be said about


HE WAS THE FIRST RAPPER TO CREATE A FUCKING PHILOSOPHY (KILLUMINATI)..

He isn't the creator of Killuminati, it was something he followed, that's like saying the Wu Tang Clan created the 5% Nation.

HE WILL MANGLE ANYONE IN A FUCKIN BATTLE, EMINEM, CANIBUS, BIG, RAKIM, IMMORTAL TECH I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS..

Chino XL fuckin KILLED Tupac.... exposed him hard.... all Tupac said back was "and Chino XL, FUCK YOU TOO" ... come on...

NOT BECAUSE OF LYRICAL DEXTERITY, BUT BECAUSE OF PAC'S STRATEGICAL GENIUS.

yeaaah... such a strategical genius that he admits to getting raped in prison in one of his songs, for everyone- including his enemys to hear... Such a strategical genius that he got shot 5 times before, and wasn't wearing a vest when he got shot & killed in Las Vegas, when he KNEW he had people that wanted his head on a platter.

WHO PLANS SHIT OUT, AND HE PLANNED TO FUCK BIGGIES LIFE UP TOO, WHICH HE DID..


HE LIED, YES "LIED" ABOUT FUCKIN BIGS WIFE, HE USED IT AGAINST HIM,

How do you know he lied about fucking BIG's wife? How do i know he didn't? That's right... The only person who knows is Faith... you don't kick it with her, or Tupac...

BRAGGED ABOUT TAKING 5 SHOTS AND BLAMED IT ON BIG, THEN USED THAT AGAINST HIM,
...ok
HE USED THE DISEASE THAT LIL CEASE HAD,
damn... frontin like you're all up on who 2Pac was dissin on every song he ever put out, but you dont know he was dissin Prodigy from Mobb Deep?

INSULTED KIM,
huh?


get your facts straight.... where's my receipt?

owned.

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All of that was staight worthless bull.. especially when you judge my spelling, yet your etiquette is horrible, and your logic is tangled.. FIRST, i NEVER SAID THAT reading the NY times makes you smart, it helps you attain literacy tho.. also, Pac was very into history, how dare you only attribute that to nas, you're mixed up.. he read a lot of books, like the Art of War, Confucius, and etc...plus, he atleast he knew who the real Makaveli was (not a damn philosopher).. Nicolo was not a philosopher, he was an Italian Prince, and ruled his kingdom in a revoulutionary fashion... I've read "The Prince", have you? plus you say that I try to measure his brain capacities
(plural, meaning nicolo must have two brains), while you still refer to The Prince, when I was talking about Nas and Pac's intellectual peaks, CAN YOU READ? how did you get confused so quickly? lol.. Everything that you just wrote confused me, and seemed baseless.. you just needed someone to challenge, yet i've made you look like a total fool..

Also to me, yes Pac was the first to spit with emotion, and I stand firm..
and when I say he surpasses the peeps i named metaphorically, you try to lecture me, like I can't have an opinion.. then you say i display ignorance and limit my potential.. that was ignorant, and out the ass.. When I was born, i was born with particular capabilities, and potential is measured from that, not from what is said on a forum, you make me look smart.. stop hurting yourself.
and actually i should of rephrased it, fuck kulluminati, he still created his own way of life from the Thug Life philosophy.. so you are once again tossed down.. and yes, Pac was a strategical genius, suck a genius that he told every he got raped, took 5 shots, and still won the fuckin battle, lol.. next point..

CHINOXL DID NOT EXPOSE SHIT, BECAUSE CHINOXL SUCKS ASS. PLUS HE WAS SO UNDERGROUND THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO HE WAS UNTIL A YEAR AGO.. SO IT WASN'T EXPOSED TO THE WORLD IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN. PAC CRUSHED HIM BY SIMPLY BRUSHING HIM OFF AND GOING AT BIG.

THEN YOU SAID

"FRONTIN LIKE YOU ALL UP ON WHO 2PAC DISSIN ON EVERY SONG"

YOU WRITE LIKE A SLAVE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CLAUSE, TO EVEN RESPOND TO IT..

SO IN CONCLUSION, YOU HAVE WAISTED ATLEAST 30 MIN. WRITING A RESPONSE TO SOMEONE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW, ABOUT SOME IRRELEVANT TOPIC, AND STILL GOT CLOWNED.. PLUS YOU WROTE DOWN AND COPIED EVERY THING THAT I SAID, MANUALLY (WHICH IS TEDIOUS) INSTEAD OF QUOTING ME.. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING LIFE, PLUS YOU'RE DUMB AS ALL HELL FOR DOING IT THE LONG WAY...LMFAO...

YOU'LL NEVER OUT WIT A PAC FAN.. PEOPLE THAT KNOW THAT PAC WAS THE BEST IS ALWAYS SMARTER.. LMAO, ROASTED..






















P.S, I WON'T RESPOND TO ANYTHING ELSE YOU SAY, I GOT MY SPEECH OUT.. LOL

ROFL

FIRST OF ALL BITCH.. YOU LOOK DEAD ON SCRUFF MCGRUFF.. YOU ARE AN UGLY BITCH, IF I DO SAY SO MYSELF..

AND ACTUALLY CONFUSCOUS ISN'T A WORD.. BUT "CONFUCIUS" IS THE "NAME" (KEY WORD) OF A HISTORICAL FIGURE IN CHINA, THAT YOU ARE TOO UNEDUCATED TO KNOW ABOUT, BECAUSE YOUR DUMB ASS ASSUMED THAT I MEANT IT TO BE A WORD... LMFAO, GOTCHA!

PLEASE, I CANNOT BE OUT WITTED IN ANYWAY, YOU TAKE A LOW BLOW, I TAKE ONE...

I WIN AGAIN..

P.S, THAT AIN'T HOW YOU SPELL "ETIQUETTE" EITHER.. LMAO
YOU TOOK YOUR TIME OUT TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T EDIT. YOU DID IT FOR ME, YET SPELLED THE WORDS WRONG TOO, PLUS MISTOOK CONFUCIUS FOR A WORD.. LMAO, YOU SET YO SELF UP BIG TIME..

YOU HAVE TO BE THE MOST WORTHLESS BITCH WALKING....

UGLY AND DUMB... WHAT A FUCKING SHAME.. NUFF SAID..

I REFUSE TO REPOND BACK..

WHOA, and you are much more ignorant than I thought.. actually, killuminati has nothing to do with illuminati which isn't even a DAMN PHILOSOPHY YOU PEA BRAIN..

Illuminati started as a religious sect that came out of Spain.. you are waaaaaaaay off.

Killuminati is an awarness and elevation of the Afrikan mind. . also of physical change, and the destiny change of Afrikan peoples.. it is not Anti-illuminati, and I know about the Illuminati, that has nothing to do with Killuminati. you talk out of your ass a lot huh? Illuminati started from religion, you dumb ASS!
OH MY GOD..

DO YOU READ, OR JUST HEAR THINGS.. I ALSO HAVE 9 MINUTE 2PAC INTERVIEW WHERE HE DOES BREAK IT DOWN. ILLUMINATI WAS NOT MENSIONED ONCE..
HOW MUCH EMBARRASSMENT CAN A MAN TAKE?

I WON'T RESPOND TO YOU, YOU SHOULD BE SMARTER THAN THAT.

idiots, why challenge me anyways?