Listening to the radio and buying records are two totally different things...

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Mainstream all the way....

I'll sell outin a heart beat.

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The opposite of LatinKitten.

Exactly people would exept the money in an instant

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For me its always been if you got a message that you want people to hear.. Then the more famous you can get, the further your message will spread. Money is important, but theres other things that come into play with what I'm trynna achieve through hip hop.

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fuck that...

gimme green an I'll kick a baby in the head when he aint lookin.

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The opposite of LatinKitten.

listen to nostra if i made it underground i want hall of fame and respect with my message to make it to the mainstream and have an impact n message for all. Will the underground king of a town be remembered forever and read in books or will P.diddy for his empire and message in hiphop...nas for example will be in for both for his sick underground shit and his black views on society...If i make it big i support my family but ima work for a image and generation to build on...i want hall of fame n a place in time over cash tho

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Who the hell told you that?? don't believe them monkies you see on their solid platinum leashes. The jewelry is rented and so is the cars. It's all for image so you think they're far more paid than they actually are. You know how many rappers are piss broke? Actually, I got a collab on a Nostra track about a topic a lot liek this.

But it's simple mathmatics.

Mainstream, First Contract: 10¢/ CD. Yup..no joke. Not even the BIGGEST of rappers is making more than 15¢/CD and that's with over 10 years in the game unless they own the label. Yeah, that's cents. Not Dollars. Lets say you go Gold...actually, lets overexagerate and say you go platinum on your first album (which is unheard of). That's 1,000,000 x .10 = $100,000 (gold would be $50,000).

Underground, First Contract: $5/CD Yup. Underground, going rate is $5/CD in hand. 10 if you own the label. Lets say you go Gold (which with proper distribution is realistic). 500,000 x 5.00 = $2,500,000. You just made literally 25 times the money with half the records sold. 50 times the money if you compare Gold against Gold. If you went platinum underground, that'd make you 5 million dollars of JUST the CD's.

Once agian, mainstreamers make NO money off rap it self. They make money off endorsements, advertising spots, commercials, doing call-signs, etc. whoring themselves. Their presence somewhere or on something. The only real money they'll see is on live gigs like concerts where they'll see 5k a show for a big venue on a first contract. Guys like Jig will see 50-75k. Maybe even 100 for a club venue at Speed or The Tunnel (when that was open). Jig will see a portion of ticket sales (which will pay better than a flat wad), and that's after 15 years of rap. On a ticket, he'll see 3 dollars tops, PER ticket and remember he's a big-dog in rap. Now check this..

Lets say Jig sold out Madison Square Garden to full capacity(which he did). MSG seats a little under 20,000 people. Now here's the math:

20,000 x $3 = $60,000. Jig made 60k form selling out madison square garden on cheap $20 seats. At 6 bucks/ticket on a $50-100 dollar ticket, he'd rake in 75k tops. That means that any underground head that went gold made more money than Jay-Z did on selling out the world famous Madison Square Garden. Seems strange, but it's true.

Split for profitability for an undergorund emcee's career is along the liens of:

CD: 60%
Live: 25%
Endorsements: 10%-15%
Other: 5% (underground mixtapes, pirate radio spots, magazine covers, etc)


Mainstreamer is more like:
CD: 2%
Live: 45%
Endorsements: 35% (though could be far higher depending on success of alternate things liek clothes, alchohol, and other material things)
Other: 18% (radio spots, callsigns, magazine covers, etc)

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damn yo thats crazy*the fact i read the whole thing*]

but thats funny i thought it was the other way around, but i guess underground wins

but what does it mean to own your own label
EX: MM owns shady records, so does that mean he owns his own label?

or how NAS owns illmatic?

The guy that owns the label = makes the most money. They make the $5 (actually $7)/CD now with less headaches and WAY less work. Now when YOU go Gold or platinum, you earn THEM the 2.5 mil. They essentially make underground money with mainstream exposure. Now they have the experience of being jerked on their deal and know what the market is like, who their fanbases are, who can distrobute the numbers they need, who they need to bribe for spins, etc. While you make ¢10/CD.

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what i meant was, who has there own label that is currently mainstreem?

billions*...at the end of the day..money wins.

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Wow, that's a long list. There's quite a few, to be honest, but I'm sure you already know Dre, Nas, Master P, Diddy, and Jay do. Eminem dosen't own a label, he owns a sub-label on Aftermath, which means Em can't make a move that won't put a dollar in Dre's pocket. The more I think about it, there's quite a few emcees out there with their own label. Shit, even Peedy Pablo owns a label, and who can name more than 2 songs he EVER rapped on? lol.

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its good to be respected, but dollars pays the bills, dollar dollar bill ya'll

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Just out of curiosity where did you get all that infomation?