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Old 06-13-05, 04:13 AM   #2
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oh my god your a fuckin idiot so wat if iran has nuclear capabilities america already has nuclear bombs so wats to stop every1 bombin america because they are a nuclear threat.

answer this y is it ok for america to hav nuclear bombs but it is wrong for iran to hav nuclear capabilites u fuckin idiot thinkin every country outside the 8 richest nations shudnt hav nuclear capabilities because its a threat to america but yet america already hav the bombs n kill alot more people fuckin dick thinkin the world revolves around america


You are not seriously arguing for Iran to have nuclear capabilites?

Iran hates us. Do you not understand that?

The United States wouldn't launch a bomb like that unless we were attacked first. Do you really think Iran wouldn't use theirs without being attacked?

I could give a shit less about who has nuclear capabilities as long as it's not a bunch of terrorists. Why the fuck would I SUPPORT that shit when it IS a threat to America.

What the fuck are you talking about "America kills a lot more people?" So the fuck what? What does that have to do with nuclear capabilites? We haven't dropped a nuke on Iraq. The kill statistics have nothing to do with nuclear bombs.

And no, I don't think the world "revolves" around America, but you must be fucking insane to drop a nuke in Iran's hands.
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Old 06-14-05, 04:58 AM   #4
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hmmmmm hmmm ok this is exactly wat i was talkin bout in my previous post about america thinkin the world revolves around first off who gives a fuck if iran hates u loads of countries hate other countries but are they not allowed to hav weapons just because they hav a haate towards a country if this is true n is basically wat your sayin then america shudnt be allowed to hav nuclear bombs or even capabilities cause america hates pratically the entire middle east
"Why the fuck would I SUPPORT that shit when it IS a threat to America."
once again thinkin the world revolves around america loads of countries are threats to other countries n it dosent matter if u support it or not it has nuthin to do wit support it has to do wit rights now if america hav the right to hav nuclear bombs then so does every other country in the world no matter wat the circumstance is
next "We haven't dropped a nuke on Iraq" very simple answer to that hav they dropped a nuke on yous


If a country like Ireland hated us, we wouldn't do shit.

The difference between Iran's hatred for America is that they do have terrorist organizations. With even more power packed into a nuclear bomb do not realize how much of a threat that is? Sure you can say "they havent dropped a bomb on us yet" but do you really need that to happen for you to not support them having a nuclear bomb? Do you really need to see MILLIONS of Americans DIE for you to be against a country loaded with terrorists to have a nuclear bomb.

ONCE THEY DROP A BOMB IT WILL BE TOO LATE! Do you not fucking get that?

Iran and North Korea are loaded with terrorists, so how can you be supportive of them holding a bomb that could fuck up this generation of Americans.. and the next one too.. because radiation fucks people up. You must be a complete peice of shit to need to see death to be against something.

But what the fuck are you talking about? I KNOW THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND AMERICA! AM I EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE WORLD?! I'm talking about America and Iran. No other country, therefore, not the whole world. You can stop going back to that same shit. It is really getting annoying. You have no idea about what my beliefs are with America's relationships with other countries, so don't make assumptions based on what I say about the weapons situation in Iran.
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Old 06-12-05, 01:31 PM   #5
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fuck bush...and fuck government in general...its all fuckin corrupt and shit...but if we have to have a government...its demicrat all the fuckin way...
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Old 06-12-05, 01:53 PM   #6
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i study government & politics in school n as much as i am against it because no matter what, even if a government is 'democratic' the politicians will always have their own agenda and unless we do vote and apply constant pressure through pressure groups, the government will run shit the way they want to,we absoloutely need the government! w/out it, life would be constant chaos, there would be no health care, no1 to look after education (although the real curriculum of the education system is debatable), no1 to collect the trash etc we need government to look after those things that we dont even consider when criticising them! think about democracy 4 a minute, we as ppl get 1 vote once every few years or so, jus because we vote for them on a one off basis doesnt mean they have to represent our views the rest of the time they are serving thats y i support so many pressure groups, they r our only check on the government, also majority rules and the majority of ppl are mindless sheep that will follow suit, the government control every aspect of our society therefore enabling them to hide things from us and brainwash ppl thru the use of the media etc into accepting that what the government is doing is right which = BULLSHIT!
and as far as the american government goes, i have never seen one man make such a mockery of the rest of the world and his own ppl than george Bush, the man is an illiterate alcoholic ex con ffs! not only is he murdering his own troops, thousands of iraqis and afghanastani ppl, he re instated the death penalty in sum states, killing his own ppl! How could 51% of the american ppl get it so wrong!?
also i 100% agree with efecx
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Old 06-13-05, 04:52 PM   #7
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i study government & politics in school n as much as i am against it because no matter what, even if a government is 'democratic' the politicians will always have their own agenda and unless we do vote and apply constant pressure through pressure groups, the government will run shit the way they want to,we absoloutely need the government! w/out it, life would be constant chaos, there would be no health care, no1 to look after education (although the real curriculum of the education system is debatable), no1 to collect the trash etc we need government to look after those things that we dont even consider when criticising them! think about democracy 4 a minute, we as ppl get 1 vote once every few years or so, jus because we vote for them on a one off basis doesnt mean they have to represent our views the rest of the time they are serving thats y i support so many pressure groups, they r our only check on the government, also majority rules and the majority of ppl are mindless sheep that will follow suit, the government control every aspect of our society therefore enabling them to hide things from us and brainwash ppl thru the use of the media etc into accepting that what the government is doing is right which = BULLSHIT!
and as far as the american government goes, i have never seen one man make such a mockery of the rest of the world and his own ppl than george Bush, the man is an illiterate alcoholic ex con ffs! not only is he murdering his own troops, thousands of iraqis and afghanastani ppl, he re instated the death penalty in sum states, killing his own ppl! How could 51% of the american ppl get it so wrong!?
also i 100% agree with efecx

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Old 06-13-05, 01:34 PM   #9
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Iran is an extreme threat right now. They do have nuclear capabilities.

We can't drop an atomic bomb on a country like Iraq. The radiation would go into other countries and the rest of the world would hate us even more. There is only a few rebellion groups, therefore an extremely larger porportion of the casualities would be civilian.


also you have to think of todays atomic bomb... they are a gazillion more powerful than the hiroshima...and nagasaki.. were talking about enough power to throw earth off its axis.



Korea has nuclear aswell, and America has it........so why would it matter?
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Old 06-14-05, 08:43 PM   #13
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Lmao. How the fuck is the government supposed to fix problems in the ghetto? This country has plenty of oppurtunities so why the fuck should the government give them money or any of that bullshit? Go out and make a fucking living. Or, if you can't make enough money then join the fucking military. Food is free. Housing is free. Everything else is cheaper on the base. You don't pay taxes. It's not the government's fucking problem that some of the people in the ghetto can't get their fucking act together.
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Old 06-15-05, 03:56 PM   #15
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Lmao. How the fuck is the government supposed to fix problems in the ghetto? (1)This country has plenty of oppurtunities so why the fuck should the government give them money or any of that bullshit? Go out and make a fucking living. (2)Or, if you can't make enough money then join the fucking military. Food is free. Housing is free. Everything else is cheaper on the base. You don't pay taxes. (3)It's not the government's fucking problem that some of the people in the ghetto can't get their fucking act together.

i feel i need to address a few things here...

(1) Everyone can't go out and make a living... take the homeless, for example... in America, you need a physical address to get ajob... no address...no job....

consider this... with the rate of high school drop outs and failing students, why should the government continue to give money to the school systems? ever think about that?

the sports programs that everyone enjoys and camps and shyt like that.... that all comes from government loans and grants...summer school programs... free lunch programs... all those public assistance programs that help feed people who have no other means... there are plenty of people who have used these services to get on they feet and make sum'n of themselves... don't knock the gov if you don't understand what's going on. i don't agree with everything the gov does but it does help lots of people who really need it.

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Housing in the military is NOT free... it comes out of your pay every month just as if you were paying rent

Food is NOT free... that also is deducted from your pay every month... you all have this misconception that the military is a FREE ride... I can tell you from experience that it's not... I've been in almost 6 years now and i've seen the pros and cons of being in the military... yes, it's more convenient being that you get hella benefits that would cost you two asses and a spleen on the outside...but that's about it... and even then, you are still paying for some that... the whole no tax thing is only on post in their stores... certain things in the comissary you will still be taxed for... and yes we still pay federal and state taxes...

yes things are cheaper on base... but what's that add up to when you are literally on 24 hours a day? we don't get overtime pay... there is no 40 hour work week for us... it's 24/7/365... we bring our work home with us... and let's not get into deployments.... sometimes you're lucky if you get 2-3 hours sleep in a day... do some research before you start talking all this bull that you obviously have no idea about

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If it's not the gov's business to help people in the ghetto then why do we send so much money to all these other countries? I'm pretty sure those people consider their areas ghettos also... poverty is worldwide, homie... yes, even in the united states... get ya mind right before you end being one of those people that you were talking about that shouldn't get help from the gov... you prolly saying shyt like "that will never be me..." ... yeah... and as a kid i never thought i'd see my family get evicted... and guess what?... shyt happens... we got over itand did what we had to do but ya never know what's gonna happen in life
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