Originally Posted by Tony Green

No cause Oprah wasnt around for the time of the thugz but peeps like Dr.Dre, Big Daddy Kane around the early 80's is when the thug really came out! And the word thug means person from the bottom at least in the hood thats what it means don't know bout mid class america!

Originally Posted by Tony Green

NK I'm not Indeph so kill that and being a thug doesn't mean you have to had killed someone or do bad things a thug is a person that came from the gutter or is still in the gutter tryinn to make it out its obviously you not from the gutter cause you don't know this but like Pac said yes he was a thug and yes I'am a thug why because I came from the bottom and pushing to the top you need to stop pretending your so gangsta and hood cause you no nothing bout it!

Originally Posted by 9th Degree

To the dumb ass newb who thinks Indeph = Tony Green -

If he was, I would've whupped his ass a long time ago.

Originally Posted by ...1ndeph...

What does RV define as a gangsta. It seems like you don't know much about it since every time its said its usually a joke or surrounded by "quotes". I'm not one and my music is anti that, but you people think they're some sort of urban myth. Yes gangstas do have computers. Surprise, surprise. I'm just confused cause how can you call somebody a fake crip,blood.GD etc, if you aren't one and never met them in your life. I believe in not judging people by descrimination and when you think that someone who's in a gang has to be poor or too stupid to use a computer its the same thing. I mean this is a hiphop site. Hip Hop: a music which started out street music. If you say anything related to street problems you're a net thug. Shit, whats makes that assumption different then the theory of white people not being able to rap. When most of the good heads here are white. Its just hipocritical is all. If you always actin tough outside if you're being yourself here then it would be the same right? Are you supposed to change yourself when you're online? Spffff. Meh, I'm sorry if I wow'd you with my overwhelming knowledge.

Originally Posted by Natural killa

hush your mouth about this whole gutter thingy.N you don't know the hardships of my life.So don't act like you know it.

Here what
http://www.answers.com/thug&r=67

thug-A person who treats others violently and roughly

SO I have no idea what you are talking about with this whole gutter shit.Tupac,in my eyes,was not a gangsta due to him not having an criminal records before becoming a star.I neva knew Pac n neither did you.So all we can do is make assumptions.And I made my assumtion based on a fact.You...your basing the assumtion that he is a thug because he "came from the gutter".Did it ever hit you at any point...that maybe Pac fabricated his past?It's possible.
And I don't give a fuck about whether or not you are a "thug".That's real life shit n is not sumtin I feel like discussing at this moment....or any moment watsoever on the net.If you ever see me in the street or in real life..then discuss your life..but not here through a keyboard where it is impossible to distinguish between fact n fiction as you could be saying anything.

AND you are Indeph.

Originally Posted by Drakel

tupac was a loving thug

lmlo @ this argument

Originally Posted by Natural killa

hush your mouth about this whole gutter thingy.N you don't know the hardships of my life.So don't act like you know it.

Here what
http://www.answers.com/thug&r=67

thug-A person who treats others violently and roughly

SO I have no idea what you are talking about with this whole gutter shit.Tupac,in my eyes,was not a gangsta due to him not having an criminal records before becoming a star.I neva knew Pac n neither did you.So all we can do is make assumptions.And I made my assumtion based on a fact.You...your basing the assumtion that he is a thug because he "came from the gutter".Did it ever hit you at any point...that maybe Pac fabricated his past?It's possible.
And I don't give a fuck about whether or not you are a "thug".That's real life shit n is not sumtin I feel like discussing at this moment....or any moment watsoever on the net.If you ever see me in the street or in real life..then discuss your life..but not here through a keyboard where it is impossible to distinguish between fact n fiction as you could be saying anything.

AND you are Indeph.

Originally Posted by Tony Green

LoL can you read boii I said in the hood you come ask somebody what is a thug they gone tell you a person who in the gutter and tryinn to make it to the top middle class america brain washes peeps to believe a thug is a violent person a person who out to hurt you know cause in my hood if you don't do nothing to us or we don't know you we don't say nothing to you we walk right pass you thats the definiton in the dictionary not in the streets real life reality so learn some facts go spend a day in the hood and you'll see they all thugz and hustling to make it to the top!

Originally Posted by Tony Green

^^^Thats the definiton middle class America gives you but thats not it but forget it NK cause you'll find any type of way to make you be right even thou your not right bout this one!