Please, it doesn't matter what YOU fuckin think

But it matters what I think, because people use that term to try and offend me and for that sole purpose, which is also the reason why it was basically first used

-If i was asian and someone called me a paki, id be like...yeah your a brit..

It is not offencive unless stated in an abusive tone.

Now i understand what your saying, but fuckin dicke bird etc regularly say it in cricket commentating.

Australia = aussies
West ndies = windys
Pakistan = pakis

How can it be derogotary, when its just a shortened version, nickname if you like.

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Paki is an offensive term, because it is used by racists to refer to Pakistani - so instead of blaming me for finding it offensive, why don't you blame yourself for not being able to use a more appropriate term?

It is deragatory because that is what the purpose of it is - Now once again, as I mentioned in my last post and as you argue, why should it be offensive if it is used as a shortened term?

Considering this word is used by racists, how do I know who uses it to offend and who uses it as a shortened version?

Instead of blaming me, blame yourselves for not being able to use another alternative - the fact is, the history of this word is so that it has been used predominately by racists with the sole purpose to offend, so why should I accept it as a viable term that can be used to describe me?

So fuck being lazy, and just use Pakistani - as I said, I accept Paki is a shorter version but the context of the word is not so that it can be used by the ordinary man - people still use this word to offend people like me...

Again, I have no idea about that cricket commentator....if he uses it though, it does not mean he is correct....he might or you might use it without a bad intention, but try telling that to people who are insulted daily simply because it was initially used to insult...and that's it

So your a racist as soon as you call a brit a brit.

If i was going to be racist, is say a lot more than Paki, believe me.

A more appropriate term you say, tell me one other than pakastani. Cause you wouldnt go calling an aussie australien in open conversation, i guarantee that.

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Ok your still misunderstanding my main points....

Firstly, the term Brit was never 'intended' to be used as a racist term and when used predominately today, it IS NOT used as a racist term...

On the other hand, Paki was 'intended' to be racists and today is used predominately as a racist term...

There is a difference, right?

Underlying all this is the intention of the person -

Brit - If someone uses this term with the intention of offending the person simply because of their race, yes, they are a racist...

Paki - If a peson uses this term with the intention to offend it is racist also...

The difference is, Paki was intended to be a racist term - so why should a person use it knowing that most of the people that use it are racist, and that if said to a Pakistani they will find it offensive

As with Brit, it was not intended to be racist...so if someone calls you it, you do not expect them to be racist (whereas you would expect a person using Paki to be racists) - however, the person maybe using it as a racist term in which case it is wrong

The difference is the context of the word - I hope you understand this point....this is my main point, the context of the word...

If you were going to be racist you would say a lot more than Paki?

What's your point....? The fact is, racists use this term to be racists and even racists say a lot more than just that, but that doesn't mean the term becomes 'un-racist' all of a sudden...


I told you, a more appropriate term would be Asian - people use this to describe Pakistanis and Indians, and because it was never intended to be racist (racists would never really use this) Pakistanis and Indians do not find it offensive, or shall I say, they do not EXPECT it to be offensive when the term is used....

Thats not just one person,


english, australian and pakistni commentators all refer to the team as the pakis when a game is on.

Its acceptable as they know its not used in abusive context.

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I watch cricket, and have NEVER heard that term being used....

Commentators have to follow rules, and if a term is politcally incorrect they CANNOT use it....so I have no idea about what you say.

Read this defintion:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=paki

Chiefly British Offensive Slang

Used as a disparaging term for a person from Pakistan or neighboring countries or for the descendant of such a person.



- No porfessional person could ever use that, without facing the consequences...trust me - as the definition states, it is not used an abbreviated term but rather a disparaging term....


Now let's check up Aussie

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=aussie

Informal

A native or inhabitant of Australia.




Point proven - can't believe I didn't think of doing this earlier

oh my god, what fucking dumb argument.

Pakistanis are idiots if they are offended by the term paki. I mean for fucks sake. "You're a paki." ... no matter how its said, if I was from pakistan i'd go, "yeah... I am... what about it?"

It WOULD be offensive, however, if someone were to say "those fuckin pakis are always terrorists" or "Yeah he stole a TV, but what do you expect from a paki." But that in no way makes the term paki a racist term. Its just a way to refer to pakistanis. What is racist is the surrounding clauses.

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No you are wrong...

Youre are an idiot for not understanding the way this word was used - ONLY people who wanted to insult Pakistanis, and try to look down upon them used Paki...and this is still the case today, so why should Pakistanis accept a term that is used to insult them?

No it is not a way to refer to Pakistanis - hardly anyone but racist bigots use that word in the U.K, and because of that if you said it in front of a Pakistani, they would think you are insulting them...................SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THE TERM IS USED...understand? So how can you blame them....?

Come to the U.K, it is easy to type sitting near your computer and approaching everything idealistically, completely ignoring the reality...ask a Pakistani here if they like this term....and if you really feel in the mood, go to a place where a group of Pakistanis are out and about, just call them it, and see what happens.......

If its just a way to refer to Pakistanis then why is it, only racist motherfuckers supporting the BNP use it? Unfortunately, this word was initially embraced by the racist motherfuckers, and they used it to their advantage so to offend Pakistanis...so fuck you, I'm not accepting it...and I don't like the tone of your post, so don't complain about what you get in return...

Nah not really... not "ONLY people who want to insult pakistanis" use the word. In america and australia, its used almost always to refer to them as a race.

And to what you said, the racist guys that use it are dumbasses. Shit. Fancy trying to insult someone by calling them the race that they are... fuckin good one. And the pakistanis, it seems to me like they are either all trying to pull the race card that never fails, or they are ashamed of being who they are.

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true i'm not offended by the word because i can't relate to being called that

but we are far from terrorists i get that word a lot around here even though Pakistan has helped out America they just killed one of Al-qaida's leaders

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Just curious, is Paki used as an insult and deragotory term in the U.S?

It is chiefly a British offensive slang, used here, so I would not be surprised if it does not hold the same meaning over there

^^I Know Im Sayin It Depnds How U Say it i agree with u

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I'm pakistani and i can't relate to being called that word. but i do know that it's offensive to Pakistani's, Indians, Bangladeshi's all those southern Asians there might be a history of shit u don't know but the truth is it's hard fo me considering my name is Osama and over here people can't tell the difference between an Indian and an Arab. But on the real the word Paki is just lazy racism in the end.

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I call them arabs or hindus, the ones with the turbans arabs, everyone else hindu...sometimes guinese. Sorry, but im too lazy to learn all that shit and i just dont care enough.

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