no your completely wrong.....as much as i hated micheal...he will always be the greatest...why? because mike did it without a dominant low post presence...something thats almost impossible.....kobe will never win a title without a big man underneath....hes not good enough.....there are only a handfull in nba history that could ever do it without a big man.........and kobe isnt one of them

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he, or anybody for that matter, will never surpass Jordan...

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jordan gets respect from everyone....
kobe only gets the ball from everyone

Jordan would never take 48 shots in one game... look at who Kobe has on his team... Jordan had Scottie, Dennis, Kerr, Kukoc, and all those motherfuckers to share the ball with, and he STILL put up the points, and ALWAYS came through when it counted... he's THE legend...

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aiight at the Kobe haters...

If you are a fan of bball, you have to know that Jordan is the greatest ever...But, you also have to admit that Kobe has more RAW talent than Jordan...Stop thinkin with your hearts people and think with your heads...

Kobe is only 27 years old...Jordan DID NOT achieve what Kobe achieved at a comparable age...

Stop feelin like someone is dissin Jordan...It's actually good for the game...

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doesent matter if he didnt do it at the same age, he still is never going to be as good as, or acheive as much as jordan did

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based on what assertion? Facts point otherwise. In fact, it makes more sense to think Kobe will beat Jordan's records than to not believe it. The kid is 27 and already has 3 rings. And, the only reason Jordan is as loved as he is, is because he was ahead of his time. In my opinion, if Jordan peaked in the 21st century, he'd be just another good player in a sea of great players.

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based on everything, defense, dunking, speed, Quick thinking, Shooting, Offense, every aspect of the game jordan was raw at it 200% kobe cant live up to that

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Exactly who did Jordan play against that measured up to him?

Now...compare Kobe to the current crop of players in the NBA. The talent pool is way deeper now. Therefore, Kobe's accomplishments, relative to the time, are more impressive compared to Jordan's, IMO. Also, don't even give me that, "Jordan wasn't a ball hog" bit as to why he didn't score 81 points in a game. He scored over 60. That in itself can be considered being selfish. Face it, Kobe is a more talented player than Jordan ever was.

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It doesn't matter how many times Jordan kicks the ball around. If he scores over 60 points, the fact still remains that HE TOOK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SHOTS. Why be mad at Kobe because he was able to surpass that effort by Jordan? Based on your logic Young, Wilt Chamberlain must have been the most selfish player in NBA history.

The fact is, Kobe is more accomplished at 27 than Jordan was at the same age.



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i guess everyone ignore the fact that i probably had the most knowledgable post in this whole thread....

kobe with a big man = championship material
kobe without a big man = hell no, he'll never win one without a low post presence

jordan without a big man = 6 championships...




^ thats the difference

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before the age of 27 jordan never had shaq..and mj didnt enter the league at 18 either

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You all make more excuses as to why Jordan isn't better than Kobe at 27. I can tell you why Kobe is better than Jordan at 27 than Jordan was at 27. Kobe has more TALENT than Michael Jordan.

Again, let me draw parallels to golf.

Jack Nicklaus is considered the greatest golfer to ever play the game because he's won more majors than any other golfer. Tiger just turned 30, but is already on pace to completely obliterate Jack's records. Until then, Tiger is considered a contender (the top contender) for the crown of "history's greatest golfer." However, Tiger is already regarded as a BETTER golfer than Jack Nicklaus ever was. He has more raw talent to play the game than Jack. The same can be said for Kobe and MJ. At 24, Michael Jordan was NO WHERE near ready to win 3 championships like Kobe did. And, if you argue Shaq had something to do with that, then I can argue Shaq didn't win those without Kobe. Need I remind you all of his chamionshipLESS days with the Magic?


Oh...and Need I remind you that he had "Hardaway" as his side kick. MJ once said that Hardaway would be the "next Jordan." Boy was he wrong.



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wow @ there being an agrument over over this.

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