Originally Posted by 9th

Like UPN? I remember when UPN was so firm on the "this is not an all-black network" standpoint, then made a show about white people...aptly titled "The Mullets".

Originally Posted by Maku JaiiLiin

this is going to be on the topic of white struggle.
what is your idea of white struggle, or the struggles of white people?
do you believe that they struggle at all?

common white struggle arguments:

1.affirmative action:taking jobs away from white people <---Not really, but no one should be given or denied employement simply off of their race. Blacks don't need handouts, they need a fair chance.
2.political correctness in media:blacks can say many things white people can't. <---yup.
3.Black people simple can't seem to get motivated, to come out of thier poverty.<---this I can't agree with. There ARE people who are willing to live off of welfare (aka "free money") for ever.
4.White people who embrace black culture, are met with racism from blacks. <--ehhhhh...that I wouldn't neccessarly agree with. It depends on what aspect of what culture. White b-boys? no prob. White rappers? when you're talkin gun talk and everyone knows you're soft, yeah,you're gonna get met with some resistance lol.

lesser ones.
5. Bet(black entertainment television) is blatantly racist, what would happen if they came out with White entertainment Television. <---They already have white Entertainment Telivision. Its called "every other chanel but BET".
6.Rap music is leading society, our youth in downward spiral towards destruction.<--absolutely right. All you hear of rap on the radio is the violent and destrctive trash.

i myself will address some, you may disagree with me.

affirmative action.

w.a.(white argument)
i don't agree that a black person should be given a job over a white person simply because the color of his skin. Because of affirmative action, more qualified white people are losing jobs. I'm not racist, i just don't believe less qualified people should be allowed jobs over, some better qualified people, that just may happen to be white.

my argument.

to begin, i'll note that this argument, is almost always angrily voiced towards a black person. i.e. dave chappelle was on a talk show a while back, and a crowd of white men, were all angrily attacking this topic, putting it towards him. White people against Affirmative action, always direct thier discontempt towards black people. Which is The very last person you should direct this argument to.

What ethnic group controls america. White People.
What ethnic group makes the laws in this country? white people
Who put this law into effect? White People.
What is this law in counterraction to? The on the job racism in...White People.

You see affirmative action was put in place, because the overall mindset in white people, in position to hire, was a racist one. Black people weren't getting jobs, because they were in a country ruled by racist white people who wouldn't hire them. In putting this law in, they probably knew that racism would never end. When you are exposed to such blatant racism, on such a high scale, it's hard to believe that it would ever end. So, by white people, against racist white people, this was put into effect, to give blacks an equal chance at having a life.

now on the subject of blacks that are not as qualified for the jobs getting ones over more qualified white people.

If this happens, it is a side effect of the system. It is sad, but the black people hired, if they arent as qualified as another white person, at least they are qualified enough to do thier job. And that's all that matters.

You can only blame the racism for this side effect, maybe if white people were giving black people a chance, or would, because i believe it affirmative action went out completely, thier would be massive loss in jobs for black people, this wouldn't happen.

so if you have any complaints in affirmative action, blame your racist brother, or your government.


5. Bet(black entertainment television) is blatantly racist, what would happen if they came out with White entertainment Television.


you see, at the time bet came out, mtv only played one black artist: Michael jackson. All thier music was geared towards white people, we didn't have our culture on tv, and our culture is and has been a big part of america.

so bet was made.
it displayed and aired music from our culture, ones geared towards the youth and to the old, and gave us a sense of accomplishment while also catering to us, specifically.

is it racist?

no i don't think so. Because if it weren't for bet, mtv will still be in the shape it was then.

mtv didn't start playing rap, out of the goodness of thier hearts. they did it in competition with bet.

this isn't opinion it's fact.

white entertainment television(what would happen if it came out)

people might be outraged, but if they would it would be rightly so.

white people have been in complete control of everything, blacks and other minority's have lived in a system structured against them in every venue of thier lives. Less than a half century ago, we couldnt get married legally, couldn't eat in the same places, couldn't find work. Everything was made the better of the white man.

so if w.e.t.(no laughs) would almost mark a blatant return to this era.


anyway post your thoughts.

Originally Posted by prozak

and another thing i hate with my own race is that we aint family...i mean look at blacks..everyones family everybodys a brotha, sista, blood, and what not and when it comes to us white people we aint a family u see another white person and u dont even think anything of them i think thats one of the missing links between us that forms racism cuz we need ta look at every race as family and maybe we wont neglect each other like we do

Originally Posted by Terumoto

If white people are getting pissed off at BET, theyre being pretty racist. Imagine if there was AET (asian entertainment etc)... And it had asian news, asian shows all that shit. Nobody would care... Nobody would give it a second thought.



Its because white people are the majority. You have a choice of who you identify with and shit, because theres so many of us. Black people are a minority, so they have to generally work harder to be accepted into anything other than their own community. Its all about the situation. It wouldnt be the same in africa.

For example, if I went to a country like japan, I would be a foreigner. If I saw a caucasian on the street, I would probably be able to walk right up to that person and get along with them, because we are in the same situation. But if I saw that same person on the street back in america, I wouldnt even look at them twice.

Humans group together with whoever they have the most in common with. Imagine a big giant hall. If it was full of everyone from your grade, youd group with your friends. If it was full of students from different schools, you'd group with the ones from your school. If it was full of random americans, youd group with people your age. If it was full of people from different countries, youd group with any american. If it was full of aliens from different planets, you'd group with any human, no matter what race/nationality they are.

Originally Posted by Carmelo

LOL @BET Being racist

theres not a slim shady video that didnt get mad airplay on BET.

Among other white r&b/rap artists.

Originally Posted by The Law

considering the hundreds of years, white people enslaved us, raped us, and beat us, then unless u wanna give blacks reperations, then u should stop fucking complaining and be content with how shit is now

Originally Posted by prozak

^^ by the way i BET one million bucks B.E.T is owned by a white person

Originally Posted by schema

white people enslaved, raped, and beat you?

damn...did you call the police...

everyone that was remotely involved in that shit is dead...its not a valid argument anymore...if we wanna go back in time and give all the freed slaves reperations im all for it...but how is you getting a pair of new sneakers gonna help your great great grandma...reperations is by FAR the stupidest idea ever...

Originally Posted by schema

white people enslaved, raped, and beat you?

damn...did you call the police...

everyone that was remotely involved in that shit is dead...its not a valid argument anymore...if we wanna go back in time and give all the freed slaves reperations im all for it...but how is you getting a pair of new sneakers gonna help your great great grandma...reperations is by FAR the stupidest idea ever...