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Old 03-13-06, 07:52 AM   #1
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i dont know about the baby and stuff, but i know when jesus was talking, he wasnt talking literally, he was talking like symbolistic
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Old 03-13-06, 09:08 AM   #2
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^^^^Just as I stated










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Old 03-13-06, 01:47 PM   #3
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Why does the bible condone cannibalism?

Why not?
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Old 03-13-06, 01:48 PM   #4
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I'm not sure, yo

But what Ive never understood is...God created the world and...Man? (supposedly)


Yet people ''sacrificed'' on his behalf.....which is clearly murder, and murder is one of the 10 commandments...


so where do they get off doin that?..
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Old 03-13-06, 02:04 PM   #5
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God is sovereign. The bible also tells us to refrain from anger. But, the bible clearly says "God gets angry." The bible warns us about letting our emotions get the best of us. But, the bible clearly says, "God is a jealous God." God clearly instructed Moses to tell the people that murder was wrong--i.e., in the 10 commandments. But, God frequently ordered people to execute others in times of war or as an act of his vengeance. The point is, if you believe in God, then you believe he is a King. And, even with Earthly kings, certain mandates go forth that people don't understand or aren't allowed to do themselves. The reason is God made everything for his pleasure. That's what the bible says. The bible also says God even made evil so that he could punish it. EVERYTHING that's in existence is for God's pleasure. That means he can do what he wants. The difference is, he isn't ruled by his emotions and is more fair than we could ever be. Think about it. We have to deal with 1, 2, maybe 3 people acting like an ass to us everyday. God deals with 6 BILLION different people and their problems, attitudes, hatred, and ignorances all day, EVERYDAY. With all that, the bible still says "God is kind and slow to get angry." Trust me, that statement is true. If God gave mankind what he deserved, we'd all be dead.

So, why does God allow questionable things to happen? He does it because it's in his will--whether perfect or permissible.

P.S. Holy Communion represents a symbolic act. We aren't actually eating the body of Christ. When Jesus served the last supper to his disciples, he took the bread and said, "Take, EAT, this is my BODY which is broken for you." That = symbolism If Jesus intended for us to eat flesh, he would have served it then. Also, just because the bible accounts someone doing something, doesn't mean God liked it. In fact, if you keep reading in alot of instances, you'll see where God voices his displeasure with the act/acts. God himself NEVER commanded people to eat flesh as a ceremonial or moral obligation to him.



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Old 03-13-06, 03:29 PM   #6
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I was reffering mainly to the 'Gobble youup = cannablism' bullshit.

the rest was merely my opinion of this thread.

Strange how can understand otehr peoples opinions on cannibalism, but when it comes to things like abortion, you draw a blank.
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Old 03-13-06, 03:33 PM   #7
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I was reffering mainly to the 'Gobble youup = cannablism' bullshit.

the rest was merely my opinion of this thread.

Strange how can understand otehr peoples opinions on cannibalism, but when it comes to things like abortion, you draw a blank.



The saying, "I could just EAT YOU" is a Freudian type of reference to cannibalism. And, what are you babbling about on abortion? This thread was about whether or not God required or allowed cannibalism. And, I stated clearly that there is no reference in the bible where God directly tells someone to eat Human flesh. Jesus' serving of the Last Supper was symbolism, or else he would have cut himself and served his blood.
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babbling on? Hardly.

Just face it. your willing to understand an act that in modern sciety is considered wrong because the bible condones it.

Yet you cant understand why people would want an abortion.

And wtf anyway, doesnt the bible say being gay is wrong. Its things like that which make me think the bible is total bullshit.
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Old 03-13-06, 03:41 PM   #9
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babbling on? Hardly.

Just face it. your willing to understand an act that in modern sciety is considered wrong because the bible condones it.

Yet you cant understand why people would want an abortion.

And wtf anyway, doesnt the bible say being gay is wrong. Its things like that which make me think the bible is total bullshit.



?? Okay...I see you're on level 8 and I'm on level 2 cuz I'm not understanding this animosity. Again, this thread isn't about whether cannibalism is wrong or not. The thread is about whether or not GOD condones it or allows it. That's what you don't seem to be getting. I'm not about to argue with you because you choose to use this as an opportunity to pick a fight. And, what does homosexuality have to do with this thread?


Stop attempting to turn this into a crucify Q topic.
And, I still don't see what abortion has to do with this particular thread.
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Old 03-13-06, 03:47 PM   #10
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babbling on? Hardly.

Just face it. your willing to understand an act that in modern sciety is considered wrong because the bible condones it.

Yet you cant understand why people would want an abortion.

And wtf anyway, doesnt the bible say being gay is wrong. Its things like that which make me think the bible is total bullshit.


Oh my goodness, CANNABALISM IS A PUNISHMENT. God doesn't go eat people. It's a punishment.

About the gay thing, yes that is one of the many things God doesn't like.
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Old 03-13-06, 04:06 PM   #11
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Oh my goodness, CANNABALISM IS A PUNISHMENT. God doesn't go eat people. It's a punishment.

About the gay thing, yes that is one of the many things God doesn't like.



"being" gay isn't the problem...having gay sex is the problem...A person can call himself "gay" all he wants. But, if he doesn't engage in those acts, is he really gay? At best, he'll have to deal with those attractions if they are real to him. The bible also says lying, fornication, drunkeness, and pride are also sins. And, I'm sure EVERYONE deals with at least ONE thing the bible calls a sin. So, for Compose to single that out was just a cheap shot at me. The bible says ANGER is a sin, and profanity. All these sins, and yet we focus on homosexuality. Gee...what a surprise.
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Old 03-13-06, 04:11 PM   #12
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"being" gay isn't the problem...having gay sex is the problem...A person can call himself "gay" all he wants. But, if he doesn't engage in those acts, is he really gay? At best, he'll have to deal with those attractions if they are real to him. The bible also says lying, fornication, drunkeness, and pride are also sins. And, I'm sure EVERYONE deals with at least ONE thing the bible calls a sin. So, for Compose to single that out was just a cheap shot at me. The bible says ANGER is a sin, and profanity. All these sins, and yet we focus on homosexuality. Gee...what a surprise.


God was displeased with those who were "gay" or showing they were gay; however, you want to put it. He didn't like it.

I didn't mention the other sins or say anything relating to it, I already know what the others are. It's one thing to just "know" what the sins are and another to live with it.

And if you talking bout me (if you aren't then ignore this part) using profanity, I actually drifted from that because yes it's not good to talk like that and angry? I'm not close to being angry.
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Old 03-13-06, 04:18 PM   #13
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God was displeased with those who were "gay" or showing they were gay; however, you want to put it. He didn't like it.

I didn't mention the other sins or say anything relating to it, I already know what the others are. It's one thing to just "know" what the sins are and another to live with it.

And if you talking bout me (if you aren't then ignore this part) using profanity, I actually drifted from that because yes it's not good to talk like that and angry? I'm not close to being angry.


no no no...You may not be gay. You may not curse. You may not have anger issues. But, you deal with something. So, my point is, don't point on ONE sin just because you don't have to deal with it. Compose used the issue of being gay as a cheap shot. And, let's not split hairs here. "showing they were gay" means having gay sex or attempting to do so. In Jewish custom, it was against the law for men to dress like women and vice versa. That doesn't mean they were "gay" if they did so. Dressing up like a woman when you're a man isn't acting "gay." So, your statement is somewhat ambiguous. As someone who's had to deal with homosexuality, I know that it's my struggle to stay focused. For someone else, it may be fornicating, or lying, or pride, or being judgmental. Whatever your vice is, it needs to be yielded to God. I'm just calling Compose on his cheap attempt at a cheap shot. COMPOSE, Lady Fiya, Q, and everyone else in this thread is a sinner.


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Old 03-13-06, 03:45 PM   #14
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Israel was predicted to be cursed with cannibalism if you check out Deutoronomy Chapter 28, i believe verse 53 or 54 specifically idk haven't read Deutoronomy in a while but i think that's close enuff. It explains some of the curses God was to put on them because of Israel's rebellion against God and his covenant.

And if I'm correct which I believe so, my Bible's in the car, but the verse you are referring to from 2 Kings is dealing with the a king from Israel which proves the predictions (from Deut.) of cannibalism to be true.

I don't think God is saying it's okay to eat men, it's one curse out of many that they brought upon themselves. The curses were made to destroy them.

I think the symbolism part is understood with the communion, I didn't read through all the posts in here but I glanced and skimmed through. Jesus speaks to men in parables and symbolism, when he says take my blood and my flesh in a consuming manner, he's talking in a more "spiritual" meaning and not physical at all.

A lot of things mentioned in the Bible are not to be taken literally.

But @ Nos' comment, not every "Christian" protects verses with an excuse like oh, it's the old testament days. Sure ENOUGH you realize the days then compared to how we live now are extremely different.
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Old 03-13-06, 04:02 PM   #15
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the part about them eating the child isn't metaphorical, it IS literal, but GOD did not say "you should do this too" it was an example of the desperation the people felt when they went against him, and their moral downfall...never once did GOD say "you should kill your children and eat them when you're hungry, it's okay..I'll forgive you cuz you were really hungry"...

the rest of it IS symbolic, because during communion they say both verses, where Jesus says specifically that the bread symboliZes his body and the wine symboliZes his blood...

the BIBLE doesn't condone or glorify cannibalism

P.S. NOS, there are specific religions that only believe certain testaments of the BIBLE, one being Jews who (I think) believe only in the Old Testament...each testament is based on 1 of GOD's 2 commandments (yes I know there are 10, but they're broken down to 2 categories)...personally, I believe we should follow both testaments, the New Testament is just dealing with more real life situations in parables that we better understand, and shows that the prophecies of the Old Testament, have come true
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