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Old 03-27-06, 09:39 AM   #1
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lol i guess ya beffing again? lol
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Old 03-27-06, 09:45 AM   #2
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Why didn't you just post this in Apexx's thread?
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Old 03-27-06, 09:56 AM   #3
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and yeah i agree with alota shit you said but some i dont... we'll just leave it at that
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Old 03-27-06, 10:06 AM   #4
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a lot of good scripture up in here.....



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Old 03-27-06, 10:26 AM   #5
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a lot of good scripture up in here.....



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Old 03-27-06, 10:13 AM   #6
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHh

Oh man... I aint gonna read all that shit... I jus found it funny that instead of just giving a straight answer in the other thread you typed up a 10 page essay trying to justify why you follow a religion that condemns your sexual preference. I'm not gonna argue whether your right or wrong... Cause in this situation there is no right or wrong.. Religion is speculation..

You can go off quoting all the bible passages and whatever else you feel like quoting..

But the fact still remains.. The subject matter your arguing over is all based on old (and most of the time, antiquated) human philosphys... Theres so much that you blindly read and take as fact that has absolutly no base. Did you know that when the bible was written, they thought the earth was at the center of the universe, hell existed under the ground and heaven was just above the clouds? I mean seriously... Wake up man.. Humanitys currant views of existance have come a long way since the stuff you preach on was concieved. The tower of babel? They literally didnt have the technology to built a tower up to space back then.. That shit was doomed before it even started... Even if they succeeded, they would have only frozen and died or been sucked out into the vast vaccume of space...

And thats a prime example of how human belief's can be compleatly misguided when there is no tested facts to support them.

Get a grip..
Take the world for what it is. Follow god. Read the bible for its great philosophys on life. But dont stoop so low as to take everything it says as a rule of thumb..

Nobodys gonna send you to hell cause your gay... Thats like saying retarded people go to hell.. Being gay is a birth defect where males become attracted to male pheromones instead of female pheromones. Its perfectly normal..

And this is the 21st century.. Its not even really frowned upon anymore... Except by dudes that really dont wanna know about it......

This is why I think organised religion is such a crock of shit.. But ofcourse.. You dont wanna hear that........
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Old 03-27-06, 10:31 AM   #7
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Oh man... I aint gonna read all that shit... I jus found it funny that instead of just giving a straight answer in the other thread you typed up a 10 page essay trying to justify why you follow a religion that condemns your sexual preference. I'm not gonna argue whether your right or wrong... Cause in this situation there is no right or wrong.. Religion is speculation..

You can go off quoting all the bible passages and whatever else you feel like quoting..

But the fact still remains.. The subject matter your arguing over is all based on old (and most of the time, antiquated) human philosphys... Theres so much that you blindly read and take as fact that has absolutly no base. Did you know that when the bible was written, they thought the earth was at the center of the universe, hell existed under the ground and heaven was just above the clouds? I mean seriously... Wake up man.. Humanitys currant views of existance have come a long way since the stuff you preach on was concieved. The tower of babel? They literally didnt have the technology to built a tower up to space back then.. That shit was doomed before it even started... Even if they succeeded, they would have only frozen and died or been sucked out into the vast vaccume of space...

And thats a prime example of how human belief's can be compleatly misguided when there is no tested facts to support them.

Get a grip..
Take the world for what it is. Follow god. Read the bible for its great philosophys on life. But dont stoop so low as to take everything it says as a rule of thumb..

Nobodys gonna send you to hell cause your gay... Thats like saying retarded people go to hell.. Being gay is a birth defect where males become attracted to male pheromones instead of female pheromones. Its perfectly normal..

And this is the 21st century.. Its not even really frowned upon anymore... Except by dudes that really dont wanna know about it......

This is why I think organised religion is such a crock of shit.. But ofcourse.. You dont wanna hear that........



I was going to ignore your response and let you say what you had to say. BUt, I'll respond anyway.

You're comparing being "gay" to being "retarded"?...Okay...sure...I won't comment on that because I think it's ridiculous.

What I will comment on is your inability to see that the bible is encompassing when it comes to SIN.

You obviously didn't read what I said because then you'd understand my position. I don't see how you can even comment when you didn't read all of it.

I will address one thing though.

Let's say I was a HETEROsexual male who committed fornication. The bible CLEARLY, CLEARLY condemns fornication. Based on your argument, that str8/fornicating man can't believe in the bible because it condemns his behavior.

ehh ehh...That's the basis of the New Testament and the belief in the power of God's salvation. If you don't believe that, don't. The scripture outlines God's plan of salvation through Jesus. I have accepted Jesus as my savior. Making him "Lord" of my life is a process that every believer takes when they accept the burden of their "cross".


SATAN, get behind me.

WHy don't you accept the fact that you don't agree with the bible, you don't agree with my beliefs, and move on. Why continue to spread hatred when, now, it's becoming intolerable?


Nostradamus is not god. Like I told Apexx, I don't owe you anything.

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Old 03-27-06, 12:39 PM   #8
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I was going to ignore your response and let you say what you had to say. BUt, I'll respond anyway.

You're comparing being "gay" to being "retarded"?...Okay...sure...I won't comment on that because I think it's ridiculous.

What I will comment on is your inability to see that the bible is encompassing when it comes to SIN.

You obviously didn't read what I said because then you'd understand my position. I don't see how you can even comment when you didn't read all of it.

I will address one thing though.

Let's say I was a HETEROsexual male who committed fornication. The bible CLEARLY, CLEARLY condemns fornication. Based on your argument, that str8/fornicating man can't believe in the bible because it condemns his behavior.

ehh ehh...That's the basis of the New Testament and the belief in the power of God's salvation. If you don't believe that, don't. The scripture outlines God's plan of salvation through Jesus. I have accepted Jesus as my savior. Making him "Lord" of my life is a process that every believer takes when they accept the burden of their "cross".


SATAN, get behind me.

WHy don't you accept the fact that you don't agree with the bible, you don't agree with my beliefs, and move on. Why continue to spread hatred when, now, it's becoming intolerable?


Nostradamus is not god. Like I told Apexx, I don't owe you anything.

Again..

Your trying to argue against me by referencing to what the bible says.. If you actually read my post.. You'd know that was a dumb move...

The point Apexx was making in the other thread was not "is there a loophole" that makes it ok to be gay in your religion..

The point he was making was why the fuck are you part of a religion that has a view point that people who are gay are evil and will go to hell?

I mean what.........Do you really ask for forgiveness every time you get fucked in the ass? And if so.. Then you obviously are bowing to what I would think most gay people would see as obserd and compleatly antiquated ideas about people of your sexual preference.

And what the fuck is sin other than something your religion teaches you.. A method of creating laws outside the bounds of earthly authoritys... PLEASE dont try and say I am wrong because blah blah blah the bible says this the bible says that about sin...

I dont want to hear it.

You are a blind fool Q.. You just dont realise it.
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Old 03-27-06, 12:47 PM   #9
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Your trying to argue against me by referencing to what the bible says.. If you actually read my post.. You'd know that was a dumb move...

The point Apexx was making in the other thread was not "is there a loophole" that makes it ok to be gay in your religion..

The point he was making was why the fuck are you part of a religion that has a view point that people who are gay are evil and will go to hell?

I mean what.........Do you really ask for forgiveness every time you get fucked in the ass? And if so.. Then you obviously are bowing to what I would think most gay people would see as obserd and compleatly antiquated ideas about people of your sexual preference.

And what the fuck is sin other than something your religion teaches you.. A method of creating laws outside the bounds of earthly authoritys... PLEASE dont try and say I am wrong because blah blah blah the bible says this the bible says that about sin...

I dont want to hear it.

You are a blind fool Q.. You just dont realise it.



No, the fool is someone who says there is no God and rejects truth. Fucked in the ass?...

Nos...tell me, when was the last time I had sex? Then, tell me what I did...You don't know so stop making blind and presumptuous statements. I clearly stated that if you don't believe the bible, then this discussion is futile.

Again, if I wasn't gay, I'd still be a sinner. So, I ask you. If I was a drunkard or a fornicator, would I be less of a Christian?

Apexx has no point because I clearly debunked what his assertion was. The bible debunks his assertion....EVERY MAN IS A SINNER.

Therefore, I have just as much right to believe in God as anyone else...Asking me how I could be a christian and deal with what I deal with is the same as asking a fornicator how he could crave multiple women and still believe in the bible.


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Old 03-27-06, 12:59 PM   #10
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No, the fool is someone who says there is no God and rejects truth. Fucked in the ass?...

Nos...tell me, when was the last time I had sex? Then, tell me what I did...You don't know so stop making blind and presumptuous statements. I clearly stated that if you don't believe the bible, then this discussion is futile.

Again, if I wasn't gay, I'd still be a sinner. So, I ask you. If I was a drunkard or a fornicator, would I be less of a Christian?

Apexx has no point because I clearly debunked what his assertion was. The bible debunks his assertion....EVERY MAN IS A SINNER.

Therefore, I have just as much right to believe in God as anyone else...Asking me how I could be a christian and deal with what I deal with is the same as asking a fornicator how he could crave multiple women and still believe in the bible.


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Oh cool man..

So I'll just go kill a bunch of people.. But its all good cause the bible says every man is a sinner... And according to Q, I might aswell just go kill people cause even if I dont.. I'm still a sinner...

So what is there to lose? Right?

And if having heterosexual sex is such a sin (which its not).. Then why did god create adam and eve? Full stop... You moron...


Mhmm lets see what other dumb points your making...

Once again saying I dont believe in god.. Which I've said numorous times is a wrong assumption..

Trying to say because I dont know when the last time you had sex was.. I shouldnt be asking why your involved in a religion that condemns your sexual preference..

I mean what dude.. Are you a virgin or something? Is that what your trying to say?

And finally... You relate being a christian to believing in god...

Which is just plain dumb...

Being a christian is believing what a wide spread cult tells you to believe about a prophet they lie to all shit about. Believing in god is believing there is a creator of the universe...

Dont get it twisted...
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Old 03-27-06, 10:44 AM   #11
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OH...and another thing


"Blindly accepting what I believe"...?

How am I blindly accepting what I believe?...I've read it. I've studied it. I've looked into it and compared it with other accounts found in other religions. Then, I accept it as God's word based on that preponderance. The bible says in 2 Timothy that all scripture is given by inspiration of God. So, if you don't believe that, then you can't believe anything else in there. With that said, why not shut the book and be done with it?

Nos...you seem real bitter about God and/or the bible. DId you used to believe?...If so, why did you stop?


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Old 03-27-06, 10:54 AM   #12
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ONNNNNNNNNNNE MORE THING

You call being gay a "defect"
hmm
An imperfection that causes inadequacy or failure; a shortcoming


^^^^Definition of defect

Then, you claim that there's nothing "wrong" with it, that it's "normal"


Hmm...Isn't that contradictory? By definition, something is wrong with a defect.

I don't see what's different from what you're saying Nos, and how Hitler viewed the Jews, or a grand wizard of the KKK viewed blacks.


AND ANOTHER THING...

I don't have to justify anything to Apexx...I answered his question and went beyond it. Was not that the question?...And, if it was a rhetorical question, why badger me because I didn't answer it. Now that I answer it, you LAUGH at my reply and say, "HAHA @ u tryna justify blah blah"

^^That's your belief, not mine.

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I didn't bother reading all this...did you finally say whether or not you have actually met god?
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I didn't bother reading all this...did you finally say whether or not you have actually met god?



okay Apexx supporter


I give up.

Read all of it, then come back and ask me that question.


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Old 03-27-06, 11:13 AM   #15
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Apexx supporter? Shit, I'm merely a neutral party who just so happened to read one of your arguements. Also, I'm the same neutral party who didn't have enough time to read this, so I asked a question that would've saved me like 15 minutes trying to look for it.

Thanks a lot.
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