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Old 03-28-06, 10:42 PM   #16
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So you saying my family's stupid for teaching me wut they know???? Who says the bibble "you" read is right??? who knows exactly?? Why should I say "holy mary, mother of God, blah blah blah" who says your suppose to say that?? you dont gotta say all that stuff to pray to God.. n thats what i was taught. u were taught of that by the bibble "you" read.. n u still stand there saying what im saying is wrong.. nah man.. u dont have the right to say that.. i say wut i believe is right, u say what you believe is right.. nah man u ignorant for even calling me that..



No...I'm not saying anyone is stupid, just misinformed. Let me ask you this. If someone said to you, "Dabatos, Jesus didn't die on the cross, he was hit by a chariot and died." Immediately, a red flashing signal would go off in your spirit and you'd know that what that person was saying wasn't scriptural. Then, to defend what he's saying, he says, "But, that's what I believe." His belief he is entitled to. But, he can not misrepresent scripture and say it's there when it's not without being irresponsible. The bible clearly details how Jesus was crucified. He, in fact, was NOT hit by a chariot. So, when someone makes statements that are not supported by scripture, that same red flag goes off in my spirit. It's there man. Study it.
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Old 03-28-06, 11:10 PM   #17
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..well,the quaran and the bible cant be the same cuz...
....why doesnt the bible breed terrorists?


Bible breed priest who sleep with younger kids?
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Old 03-28-06, 11:12 PM   #18
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Bible breed priest who sleep with younger kids?

^correction chatholics did
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Old 03-28-06, 11:12 PM   #19
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My 2nd question is

why is god aka jesus assembled as a white man with long hair?

how do they know that?
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Old 03-28-06, 11:19 PM   #20
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My 2nd question is

why is god aka jesus assembled as a white man with long hair?

how do they know that?

The white image, of Christ, is really Cesare Borgia
and uhh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The Sixth of Rome, and once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome-gza

theres your answer
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Old 03-29-06, 12:01 AM   #21
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My 2nd question is

why is god aka jesus assembled as a white man with long hair?

how do they know that?



Everyone knows Jesus was a man of color.








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Old 03-29-06, 01:46 AM   #22
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Difference being...

The bible was changed considerably in order to represent Jesus as a god...
Whereas the Quran has stayed the same and is never changed.

No matter which way you look at it, they are both just historical documents related to wide spread religious cults with the aim of gaining followers.....

Neither is better than the other as they are both just out to serve the same purpose.

Also............Theres really no point in asking religious followers this question because their answer is ofcourse going to be full of biased crap.....

Thats religion for you..............
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Old 03-29-06, 07:58 AM   #23
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The bible was not changed to represent Jesus as God. The new testament was authored in Greek thousands of years ago, and has been painstakingly duplicated through the ages. On top of that, Jesus was prophesied in the old testament in multiple scriptures by multiple prophets. Satan, you're a liar.

Jesus is God. The bible confirms this over and over. God has also revealed it in my spirit through confirmation of his word. Denying Jesus is a spirit anti-Christ. The bible clearly presents Jesus as God.

On top of that, BIBLE CODES prove that man didn't truly author the bible. It was divinely inspired by God. No man can purposely embedd those codes in the text and have them align across the board of scriptures written over thousands of years. That's a statistical impossibility. So, even if the new testament was tampered with, which it wasn't, that doesn't account for the old testament's prophecies that Jesus would die for man's salvation.

And, if our answer is biased, what is your answer? Some of the greatest minds of all time believed in the authenticity of the bible, including Sir Isaac Newton, whose writings reflect his belief in the Bible/God.

Nos, I'm sorry to tell you, but God has put a spirit of stupor on you. You are blind and in danger of losing direction even more than you are lost now. Jesus died for you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and Savior. Right now, you are operating in a spirit of error.

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Look man.. At face value.. One would think you've just disected my arguement and proved me wrong.. But this is because your in way above your head to start with..

I'm guessing you've grown up with christianity.. Maybe you havnt been a full on preaching christian your whole life, but I think its fairly safe to assume youve always been savvy about the way it works.. You've been taught about it all through your childhood.. The human brain essentually stops evolving around the time you hit your 21st birthday, your mindstate is by then compleatly set in its own ways.. But you'd know all about this right? Didnt you study psychology in college?

Now theres no chance of you ever conciously accepting this fact, and I know you'll shrug it off as me being ignorant and yada yada yada w/e else you have to say about it...... But.... you have been brainwashed.

Lets have a closer look at your arguments...

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The bible was not changed to represent Jesus as God. The new testament was authored in Greek thousands of years ago, and has been painstakingly duplicated through the ages. On top of that, Jesus was prophesied in the old testament in multiple scriptures by multiple prophets. Satan, you're a liar.

Mistake 1) You say it cannot of been changed because it was written thousands of years ago in greek and (you've been told) that all its duplications are authentic. Which is speculation based on the biased opinions of what your church has told you. And doesent ACTUALLY prove anything due to the fact you and everybody you've ever talked to, have never actually read a bible in its origional form. Only bibles you are told are its origional form.

Mistake 2) You try to tell me the new testement cannot have been changed because the old testement prophecises about someone who in my arguments, I never said didnt exist. I never said he didnt die for our sins. I have only said he wasnt a deity. Which is an argument that is related to numorous historical scientific studies conducted outside of the christian bias.

Not to mention your attempting to tell me that the old testement is somehow untouchable and immune from change.. .....Uhh, says who?

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Jesus is God. The bible confirms this over and over. God has also revealed it in my spirit through confirmation of his word. Denying Jesus is a spirit anti-Christ. The bible clearly presents Jesus as God.

Once again. This does not prove anything. You say because the bible confirms jesus is a deity, it must be true. Thats like putting a criminal infront of a jury and just........taking their word for it... What are you trying to prove with this paragraph? That you've read the christian bible?

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On top of that, BIBLE CODES prove that man didn't truly author the bible. It was divinely inspired by God. No man can purposely embedd those codes in the text and have them align across the board of scriptures written over thousands of years. That's a statistical impossibility. So, even if the new testament was tampered with, which it wasn't, that doesn't account for the old testament's prophecies that Jesus would die for man's salvation.

I'm sorry..

What bible codes have actually been discovered, proven and unscrambled?

C'mon man.. I've read into these things just like you have.. Most claims of bible codes that have been tested have not detected anything unexplainable by chance. I mean hey, maybe they do exist... The human mind has concocted way more amazing schemes than hidden messages in text. And it would be a fools game to not be aware of the literally hundreds of extreme secret societys that exist in this world spanning over the last 5 to 6 thousand years.

The rest of your post was un-nessecary rambling in an attempt to discredit me... So I wont address it.

What I will say though, is god effects humanity in a very direct and often unforseen mannor. Never believe what you see and read to be the exact truth no matter what your source is.

You can ramble on to me all day about what you believe to be the case with existance. And as always, you will get nowhere.. Because your arguments are operating on a lower level which is nothing more than a faith you have grown up around and have imbedded into your mind as being the truth.

I am not out to change your views. But I am warning you... There is no one true religion in this world. Religion is the worship of a higher power and ultimate plan for life. Every religion has their own belief's and speculations, their own propecys, their own rights and wrongs..

But none of them are truely enlightened of the future of our existance. They simply speculate and evolve among old beliefs.

Which is why I get into so many arguments with you.. Because you feel as though you have it all worked out by believing everyting your religion tells you to believe.. When in reality, your in over your head.

My advice to you.. Is dont bother overwhelming yourself.. Just continue believing what you want to believe. You are ofcourse, just a tiny spec among a larger picture.

Just a sheep among the countless millions.
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I read them both to be honest, and its pretty indentical.

Only difference is Jesus is consider god in the bible
and in the quran its another prophet.

Well here comes my question i dont know if any of you can answer.

If Jesus is a symbol of christianity, is he god?

Which makes Maria gods mother?


pretty confusing dont you think so.


actually the quran says that there is only one god who is in everything but never takes physical form, and that prophet that ur talkin about is Muhammed

@ LK shut that ignorant shit up, sweetheart, cuz erry fuckin religion has "terrorists" aka extremists.....so ur comment isnt as clever as i know u can be k? kthx
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Old 03-29-06, 02:03 PM   #29
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n omfg @ that pic in ur sig....wowwww that actually bought tears to my eyes....ROFLMFAOOOOO....no beef wit nobody in it...jus....ROFLMFAO wowowow
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Old 03-29-06, 02:05 PM   #30
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no the prophet he was talking about was jesus jus like he said, in the qu'ran jesus is not seen as god or the son of god he is seen simply as a prophet, and yes muhammad was a prophet but he was in no way taklin bout him

u do know ther eis more than 1 prophet dont u lol??

oh, well i know more about islam than christianity....n yes of course i know their is more than one prophet...Muhammed, Moses, Jesus, Noah..etc...its jus ppl tell me different things...ive never actually read the bible tho so wuteva lol
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