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Old 07-09-06, 05:49 PM   #1
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lmfao at "if" and chang"ES"
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Old 07-09-06, 07:53 PM   #2
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No. Hip Hop couldn't possibly be a big part of your life if it's change doesn't concern you. The people who deserve more should get more. If the people who don't care about what they do and just do it for money get rewarded than what is that gonna do for hardworking artists? They're not gonna be as motivated due to low appreciation levels. The fame is more than money and girls, it's a sense that your work is really appreciated and known. But hey, hip hop can change anyway it likes -_- This all started when LL cool j did the "commercial songs for telivision and the 'real shit' for the albums" shit. So people grew up thinking those are the only supportable ways to become a rapper. And it changed the image of hip hop for the worse. But hey like I said hip hop can change anyway it likes, who cares.
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Old 07-09-06, 09:27 PM   #3
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No. Hip Hop couldn't possibly be a big part of your life if it's change doesn't concern you. The people who deserve more should get more. If the people who don't care about what they do and just do it for money get rewarded than what is that gonna do for hardworking artists? They're not gonna be as motivated due to low appreciation levels. The fame is more than money and girls, it's a sense that your work is really appreciated and known. But hey, hip hop can change anyway it likes -_- This all started when LL cool j did the "commercial songs for telivision and the 'real shit' for the albums" shit. So people grew up thinking those are the only supportable ways to become a rapper. And it changed the image of hip hop for the worse. But hey like I said hip hop can change anyway it likes, who cares.


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Old 07-10-06, 12:07 AM   #4
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I see where you're coming from but it's 2006, no ones worried about getting a message out there. That stopped as soon as Jay-Z dissed Nas for trying "to kick knowledge". All people is worried about is money, cars, jewelry, sex and drugs. Party. That's what the new millenium is all about, and get used to it because it's gonna be like that for a long time. Black niggas in the street is hungry and is ready to do just about anything for the loot. That's the only thing that matters nowadays.
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Old 07-10-06, 12:43 PM   #5
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I see where you're coming from but it's 2006, no ones worried about getting a message out there. That stopped as soon as Jay-Z dissed Nas for trying "to kick knowledge". All people is worried about is money, cars, jewelry, sex and drugs. Party. That's what the new millenium is all about, and get used to it because it's gonna be like that for a long time. Black niggas in the street is hungry and is ready to do just about anything for the loot. That's the only thing that matters nowadays.



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Old 07-10-06, 01:13 AM   #6
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my fellow black people this one is for you..

What have we come to ya'll. I was sitting back and thinking about all of the kinds of things in hip hop that i dislike or consider a disgrace to the movement and all of the rest of that....... and what i failed to realize is ....im stemming all thats going on.... In the beggining of hiphop, we as a race of blacks were making music to get messages out that no one wanted to hear.....it was raw, it was rugged, and on the other side of things, we were being shunned by all who didn't exactly see the same views that we're seeing. Somehow, the script has been flipped. It seems as though niggas are selling their souls left and right for the wrong reasons and for the things that the white man have made 'acceptable' or 'prosperous'...... people who truly understand hiphop know all of this already....but what we don't get is....who's in the wrong anymore.......why are we as a culture reverting back to exactly what we were fighting against in the first place? 3 6 mafia wins an oscar.....and yet we as appreciaters of hiphop shun what we have been shunned for in the past. somehow things don't seem right here. dont get me wrong, i truly believe that things in the industry are not what they used to be, the message isnt the same, the movement is no longer mobile, cats that are underground arent speaking up..... but we've become an enemy on the side of the war that we were once fighting on. what do you think the white man wants but for us to start dividing?

and this dates back for a while. the whole east coast west coast thing. if a nigga is real on the east he should be just as real on the west, the respect should be given, the buzz should be just as strong. but somehow instead of appreciating the differentiation in styles, we disagree with it and call it whack....is that or is it not what white people did against hiphop in the early days. all im saying is this, those who are 'selling out' are only selling out physically.....us on the other hand, have been taught that if its not how we do it, or not what we have been accustomed to, its not acceptable. intentions may not be the same, but however you come up is however you come up.why pass judgement on someone whos doing what they need to do. for all us "radicals" its not like we'd completely give up everything for the art. i can tell you right now if you had a choice of being broke and on the corner and still trying to find the soul of hiphop or living wealthy and not caring, the majority of us would take the second one, and thats just human nature, be it right or wrong. we all want to be properous. the problem with that is, some people are more focused on just being prosperous than others.in no way shape or form am i saying that i would forget about hiphop, throw a grill in my mouth like kelis, and shake my ass in a lil jon video..... but honestly, to say that those who are, are disgracing us because they are doing better than we are for less effort is wrong. My point is this...you can not like something, but there should never be a time where you consider something you dont like to be of lesser value than what you believe. hiphop started out to be about equality, to be listened too because we're people too, and now niggas are saying that 50 cent shouldnt be listened to becuz he's garbage? that nigga has a message too, whether i agree with the bullshit he talks about or not.....i think on both sides of this coin we should be re-evaluating ourselves. the war between underground and mainstream, east coast and west coast (that yes it still lives), hiphop and rap...it needs to stop. i think i'll be the first to bite my tongue and give respect to all of those in the game.....ALL OF THOSE. every politiaclly incorrect, or uneducated nigga that there may be who's fuckin with this hiphop thing, respect to you yo, keep doin your do.
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if u disagree, i could give 2 fucks, chances are you need to be a little less militant and/or a little bit more educated and open minded.

drop your 2 cents please and thank you.


i may be a little too militant for this one... i'm an advocate for the educational, soulful (you read right), and in my eyes true message and representation of my culture and my ppl, like brothers like common and talib kweli are portraying... i get just as wild as the rest of humanity, but when u get big, u gotta realize that eyes are watchin u, and u have a responsibility to your fans, and to your community, to represent them in a becoming and intelligent manner...
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Old 07-10-06, 03:19 PM   #7
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Building off of what Indeph said, Because he was right...

I don't see why I should sit here and respect some shit like 50 cent or Dem Franchise Boyz just as much as I respect Jay-Z or Nas or Immortal Technique. If someone spits some whack superficial shit, it not only affects hip hop, it gives the impression to channel flippers who stop on BET or MTV that THIS is what hip hop is all about and I'm looked at like all I want to do is ride rims or be a P.I.M.P. It becomes something more than music and becomes a stereotype. So basically, if someone who doesn't have any skill or very little of it is making money whoring a culture I love and at the same time making my life and people like me lives harder because they create a stereotype, there is no way in hell I'm going to just give them their props, fuck that.
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Old 07-12-06, 08:19 AM   #8
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when nearly every rapper has talked about guns and cash then what do you really expect the rest of the world is gonna think about hiphop, and why does it matter? why does it matter if BillyJoeRichassBob made a radio hit single for KIIS FM about certain parts of his automobile and basic human temptations? thats his deal under his own name and he'll be known for it personally. thats why its up to every artist to set their own style and voice. if you can't do that much for yourself then hating on a bigger voice would be mindless and inconsiderate. its their life and success shouldn't have a penalty. theres enough cd's out there for everybody to make an album and take a shot at consulting the planet of god-knows-what and chances are, somebody will stumble across yours. dont forget that hiphop is entertainment also and not just "a message." if you don't like a poorly compiled teenage banga track then thats your deal. although somebody out there prolly has it on their ipod and noddin to it daily and it makes them feel good. thats what the whole movement is about - to somehow carve a path leading as close to paradise and happiness as possible. evolution holds its own and we don't need anymore war starters to go around bein a music nazi. music is a great thing so dont try to put guidelines on it. gotta be a "true artist" just to spit a rhyme...wtf you smokin
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