That is part of loving kindness and compassion. Telling someone if they truly want to know. Not the purpose of enlightenment. However it wasnt always the case... Chuang Tzu's master made him sit outside his hut for two years, never once inviting him inside. If Chuang Tzu asked him a question, often he would answer it as quickly as possible and go back to his business. It's not that he didn't like Chuang Tzu, but he had absolutely nothing to teach. What was he meant to say to him? "Don't do anything, and you'll be enlightened."




Huh? You're saying you should aim to become enlightened for a reason other than the supposed purpose of enlightenment? I don't get it. Shouldn't you be doing something because of its purpose?

The purpose of enlightenment is NOT to enlighten others. Others becoming enlightened may be a product of your awakening, but it is not the purpose of it. Far from it. The purpose of enlightenment is to have no purpose, to become content with just existence (aka not having a purpose, so dont pull me up on technicalities). If you go to Kyoto around the temples there, you'll notice that the zen monks that are walking have a different walk to the rushy walk of the other japanese... They have a sort of swagger, its a movement forward alright, but not an urgent one. They are walking for the sake of walking, not because they have somewhere in particular to go. This is the mentality of existing to exist.

Look at yourself man. You are completely dependent on the future. Utterly conditioned to be attached to it. I'm not attacking you, we all are brought up in this society with that mentality. Always preparing for something that never comes. You go to pre-school to prepare for school, you go to primary to prepare for high school, you go to high school to prepare for college, you go to college to prepare for work, you go to work to make money so you have prepare for the future and perhaps live a better life when you are richer, as you work you prepare for retirement... Then you retire. You have a lump of cash, scenility, a limp dick, a shitty prostate and bad bones. By this time many people would have put their dependence on the crutch of religion, thinking that in the future when they die they'll go to heaven. It's bullshit man. You are putting hope in the future, saying things will be better, but when the future comes you'll continue to depend on the future because that future aint all its cracked up to be.

Why not be happy now? Right now? What is wrong with this exact moment? If you can find something wrong with it, i'd like to know what it is.

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BTW, this topic has strayed into the "irrelevant zone". we came in here to debate the discussion of having kids or not having kids. a discussion you layed down.

anything else?

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^^check ya pms before i murder you..

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^^dude my head hurts WAY too mcuh to read all of that shit man, skip the fuckin analogies and just get to the fuckin point.

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lmao alright

"Why not be happy now? Right now? What is wrong with this exact moment? If you can find something wrong with it, i'd like to know what it is."

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so you're saying one should only be satisfied with the current moment? planning allows you to be happy for the future because just drifting through life day by day is a sure fire way to be miserable tomorrow.

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I wasn't saying that. Why not answer the question?

And exactly what planning do you have to do not to be miserable tomorrow?

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what was your question, why not be happy right now? I am happy right now, and i also want to be happy in the future which is how we get into this plan. And my planning hahaha, i don't get into my business plans b, you could say I'm superstitious like that.

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Nah it was "whats wrong with right now?". I guess its the same thing.

Your future happiness is measured by your business plans. Thats not very good at all. -_-

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Well, I deem it necessary to have kids to make sure my superb looks genes don't go to waste. Otherwise I'd just be a posterboy to all that is considered "sexy." I REFUSE TO BE A SLAVE TO SUCH MATERIALISM. . or something.

Money is pretty nice to have though. When I have it I feel all cool like, "WHAT?! YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY?! HOW ABOUT I JUST BUY OUT YOUR DAD'S BUSINESS, JEW BOY?! GO ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE ELSE!"

I've almost convinced myself that I rule the world. People already call me the king, savior, and male Aphrodite.

I'm pretty sure I have. His name. . is Brian.

myspace.com/nosamason

Tell me he doesn't remind you of yourself. He actually is one of my friends at school, so it's legit.

spitting image.


with actual spit

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Yeah, in case you couldn't tell by his pictures, he has no problems with the ladies. However, he likes Dr. Dre so it's all hood.

What OMB is saying is actually true. =/