Originally Posted by Indeph

It's cool for spanish people to use the word because they're treated in a similar way in America. Asian people saying it makes alot of people uncomfortable. And as for a black person calling his white friend my nigga, most people who get caught in those situations already get it. The black dude uses it in the same way hed call his black friends that. Nigga just somehow replaced homie. The white person saying it in general would be considered wrong by most people, but I've seen some people be ok with it because they know their intentions behind it.

If compose or Rev or Blay said the word to me I'd be cool with it because I know they don't have any bullshit meanings behind it. Alot of people use it not because they look at black people as niggers but because they know black people don't want them to say it, therefore by saying it to them it means they're brave or some shit. Theres alot of complexities surrounding the word. It not only depends on the person itself, but their intentions behind it. I don't say it, but I don't care if black people or white people who I know say it. And by "say it" I mean just calling someone the word. Not just saying it in general.

Originally Posted by Indeph

Oh and enygma can say it because hes one of those cool white ppl that say it and yet it doesnt bother people for some reason.

Originally Posted by Indeph

No one gives a shit about slavery. The only people still talking about slavery are white people who say black people talk about slavery. Everyone were slaves at one time or another. What people are talking about is the present. White and asian people are kind of in the same position. Except asian people worship white ppl and white people accept their worship. Speaking in massivly general terms obviously though. But thats the only way to talk about this kind of shit.

Originally Posted by N.A.D.A.

^ that isn't stereotypical. I'm in an African American Rhetoric class, and this type of thing comes up a lot... Du Bois, Hughes, Ellison, all of them spoke in terms like Indeph is. It isn't stereotyping, but instead it is a way of generalizing how other communities operate in order to properly observe how the African American community operates. Culture can't be ignored, and how Indeph is really speaking is in terms of culture. Not trying to correct you just because of our argument in that other thread, but that is a really important concept to understand... and i'll explain more what I mean if you want.

PS - I really wish somebody who i was addressing would respond and try to argue against that long ass argument i made.

Originally Posted by Baphomet

i do think its pretty gay to call a white guy a nigger...

if one of my friends said it to me, id prolly be like .........huh?

Originally Posted by N.A.D.A.

^ As was I. White people are the hegemony (the dominant ideology). Therefore, when any other group does not imitate (or worship, or wish to live up to) the ideals of that dominant ideology, they are oppressed. Theoretically, this is true in any democratic capitalistic society. Indeph was saying that in general, Asians in America, in ideological terms, accept the role of living up to that "whiteness." Blacks do not, and are therefore discriminated against (systemically as well as ideologically).

Yall may be studying "debating," but this is what I'm studying

Originally Posted by JTR

It's still stereotypical to say asians worship the white man. Because first things first, when he says it he's only refering to orientals, which is already stereotypical because there's so many other countries in Asia. And second, because i'm pretty sure orientals in general don't worship white people. Maybe want what the rich ones have, but that's as far as it goes. You guys should actually meet more oriental people and talk to them or something loll.