Well, whatever they are... are you saying that they are not weak-minded. They are following the words spoken by an appointed leader who is convincing them that suicide is the way out to become pure or whatever the gay reason he/she gives.

Nobody of strong mind and will would follow such idiotic beliefs, unless they are a complete moron. So are they all complete morons or just weak-minded? Or perhaps you have an alternative theory, I am intrigued to know.

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Okay, how 'bout this.

You believe you are better and talk to people who don't quite understand what you see in yourself but the words you speak seem like enlightenment and you give off the vibe of an enlightened man. They follow your words and accept your offerings of love and honor, you build them homes with your bare hands and swear on the earth's life that the world you created is holy in comparison to the evils of the outside world. You are on private property and no one can bother you, you share food and drink and good times and everyone thinks everything is grand and that you are extremely enlightened and every answer you have to a deep question is holy.

You then suggest a together-suicide because the end times are coming, or someone from the outside is coming to make you un-pure and you must remain pure from the enemy's hands.

They've already given their life to you.

Would they refuse?

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No, they wouldn't.

What I asked though is whether or not that makes them weak-minded, because they choose to follow the words of another rather than make their own way in the world... they choose to follow a predetermined way set out before them by another.

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No, you didn't ask whether or not anything.

You made a statement that people are morons that commit suicide through order and belief, and you asked for an alternative outcome to suicide in accordance to being weak-minded.

I gave one. Whether or not the people are weak minded doesn't really matter, however, it's about the world that YOUR life believes and if this person that wants you to kill yourself with him/her has created your entire belief system and your entire world around you, there's a good chance you'll die with them. Which doesn't make you weak-minded, some would even argue that makes you strong minded and core to your beliefs.

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Potato - potarto..

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Retado..........

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Really? Good for you.

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Yahtzee!






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yeah its pretty obvious why its weak Mim... and the most selfish thing somebody could do.

How is your opinion pretty obvious to anybody but you? You think suicide is a weak and selfish act, and I don't. I used to, but my opinion has changed.

For those of you that think only weak people commit suicide, may I ask whether or not you have ever been seriously depressed? I'm not talking about whether you've been sad after a breakup with a girl, etc. because everybody has. I'm asking whether you've ever suffered from depression. Have you ever seriously considered suicide? If you do decide to answer, please be honest.

I'm not going to make assumptions about people, so I'll wait to respond until after I see the kind of audience I'm talking to.

I dont beleive its selfish unless you have a young child depending on you. The only way any of you have the right to say it is, is if you have been suicidal before.
I have and not saying all of you coz i dont know simply but most have never even thought of the idea before.
What im trying to say is many have no idea of the pain you feel or have a clue of the suffering at that point in life.
No-one in the world deserves to feel that way, its not nice and life is meant to be happyness that god created but if your not happy and have tried everything possible to be happy then in my opinion you owe the world nothing, and should feel no guilt in putting this horrible day to day feeling to a stop.

my 2.5 cents........

It's essentially selfish because of what you put other people through; there are people who care about you in this world. You have to think about the emotional torment through which you put your friends and family. If you feel that your pain is worth more than the pain you eventually inflict on everyone around you, then you are indeed selfish.

i realize that people commit suicide for a reason, nobody said they weren't depressed... but it is still the most selfish thing you can do, because you are the ONLY person who gets out of suffering... everybody else has to suffer for you.

I again, must say

Suicide is whack as fuck



lol, didn't know you'd make a thread for this Mim's.

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Oh no.

One less human. So much suffering. Make it stop.

but let's take a look at this for a second.

Selfish... okay, I'll buy that..

Say it's your, dad that kills himself. You were a little kid. What a selfish guy right?

Wrong... You want him alive to take care of you. Could it possibly be that, despite his pain and suffering, you're only thinking about YOUR needs? I think so. You're the selfish one..

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