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Old 03-19-09, 12:20 AM   #1
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Not every religion has a jesus.....and no it has nothing to do with manipulation, man started to gain knowledge about the atmophere and decided that the sun is a star and nothing more, so they made up another story, and when it gets proven wrong they will make up another one, it's the fear of the unknown that make people turn to and create religion.

What is your general point your trying to make in this thread? The sun is really our god and we're being manipulated.
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Old 03-19-09, 12:29 AM   #2
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the sun has played an integral roll in our creation..

aswell as the moon.....
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Old 03-19-09, 12:33 AM   #3
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Let me say it like this, it may be your point after all

Any religion story has been created using others before it as a guide more or less, and the first form of religion was worshiping the sun......
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Old 03-19-09, 12:38 AM   #4
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oh was it?

i wouldnt know, i wasnt around when the first forms of religion came out....
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Old 03-19-09, 12:40 AM   #5
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That was supposed to be a thesis type thing.......and historically speaking, so we're told.
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Old 03-19-09, 12:56 AM   #6
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Religion is a fucking joke. You get enough people faithful to a created religion and you can pretty much have a religion of anything.

Just ask people of the Jedi Census Church about that.
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Old 03-19-09, 01:28 AM   #7
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Yeah, Adam is trying to teach people the same thing there, Sno

it's just funny that people are like OMG 12 DISCIPLES THAT POINTS TO THIS IN THE STARS SEEEEEEEEEE? OMG ITS ALL JUST ASTROLOGY..

then 2v has to slap them with the "Oh yeah but the bible says Jesus had more than 12 disciples. Aint that but a bitch dawg?"

In essence, every argument you come up with has a counter-argument and no, one way, there is no proof that people create Religion to define the unknown.

for all anybody in the PLANET knows, God could be 100% real and he's just setting the stage for you to fail in believing him. That you know no more than the first Religion revolving around the sun, or why Religion itself exists.

You could die tomorrow and simply appear in a 244 different colored realm with a giant angry hermaphrodite staring down at you screaming "YOU FAILED MY TEST OF FAITH."

then when you're like "But dude, there was no proof! Why have you tested me?! I apologize, you are my Lord!!!!!!!"

He'll/She'll be like "I GAVE YOU THE BIBLE AND TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE. I DELIBERATELY GAVE MAN THE CAPABILITY TO TEST THINGS OUT, I'VE DONE THIS TO ADD COLOR TO YOUR SOUL AND THERE ARE 244 COLORS IN MY REALM. IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE COLORS WHICH REPRESENTS PURITY AND GOOD, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM EXISTENCE.

GOODBYE. YOU HAVE FAILED."
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Old 03-19-09, 01:13 PM   #8
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Yeah, Adam is trying to teach people the same thing there, Sno

it's just funny that people are like OMG 12 DISCIPLES THAT POINTS TO THIS IN THE STARS SEEEEEEEEEE? OMG ITS ALL JUST ASTROLOGY..

then 2v has to slap them with the "Oh yeah but the bible says Jesus had more than 12 disciples. Aint that but a bitch dawg?"

In essence, every argument you come up with has a counter-argument and no, one way, there is no proof that people create Religion to define the unknown.

for all anybody in the PLANET knows, God could be 100% real and he's just setting the stage for you to fail in believing him. That you know no more than the first Religion revolving around the sun, or why Religion itself exists.

You could die tomorrow and simply appear in a 244 different colored realm with a giant angry hermaphrodite staring down at you screaming "YOU FAILED MY TEST OF FAITH."

then when you're like "But dude, there was no proof! Why have you tested me?! I apologize, you are my Lord!!!!!!!"

He'll/She'll be like "I GAVE YOU THE BIBLE AND TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE. I DELIBERATELY GAVE MAN THE CAPABILITY TO TEST THINGS OUT, I'VE DONE THIS TO ADD COLOR TO YOUR SOUL AND THERE ARE 244 COLORS IN MY REALM. IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE COLORS WHICH REPRESENTS PURITY AND GOOD, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM EXISTENCE.

GOODBYE. YOU HAVE FAILED."


Okay man, You're are truely in the darkness. I believe in God, But not yours.

You worship false God's... and if you read he bible, You'd know That worshipping false God's is the worst sin. You think you are doing the right thing because of what people have told you. But at what point do you stop believing what people tell you and start doing your own research? Your religion makes no sense. I am no trying to attack your beliefs. I am trying to open your eyes. You are clearly in the dark because when i turn on the light of illumination you turn away and react violently. This is what happens when you are in the dark and see the light for the first time so i am not mad at you.

You are following the anchient egyption religion of sun worship. No matter how they tell the story, this is what you are worshipping. you have to look behind the words and symbols for the true meaning. It doesn't matter how many deciples Jesus had because numbers in the bible are just symbols. They represent something. the do not necissarily mean their face value. Talk to any true theologist about this. Lucifer refers to the mourning star. Its actually Venis, which if you wake up at 4AM and watch just before the sun rise, you will see this star. After it comes the Sun. Thats why they call it "The bringer of the light" In actually The devil has nothing to do with the representation of Bad. It just a play on words... its just evil with a D. And God is just good without an O. Good/Bad it doesn't exist. Religion is manipulating your mind. There just IS. There is a devine force in the universe but you are not intune with it. So no matter how much you pray for things to get better... it never will, You my self decieve yourself into thinking your praying helps, or even look for something to vouch for your prayers. But you are praying to the Sun and Astrology... Not the underlying devine force of the universe.

Theres so much more to go into. So whatever comeback you have, i have one for you. But im not here to attack your beliefs, only open your eyes. I'm sure you were raised Catholic or whatever, and I'm sure you do not believe in the illuminati. You must start thinking for yourself man.

The Bible has a message within a message. If you look deeper, you will find the true message. Not the outerlayers of how people manipulated astrology from the anchients and make you worship false Gods. Realise this and you will be saved from yourself. And you can start to get in touch with the true devine forces of the universe.
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Old 03-19-09, 01:57 AM   #9
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i worship the son jesus chirst.
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Old 03-19-09, 02:28 AM   #10
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I believe in a religion, but i'm considered a "ignorant person" for believing in what I believe in. And normally the people that are saying i'm "ignorant" are ignorant themselves.
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Old 03-19-09, 08:28 AM   #11
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I believe in a religion, but i'm considered a "ignorant person" for believing in what I believe in. And normally the people that are saying i'm "ignorant" are ignorant themselves.

well im not ignorant...

so lets delve into the abnormal and im going to call you ignorant for allowing yourself to become a sheep in the herd of primative human teachings of paradoxial unknown phenomina and fabels.
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I believe in a religion, but i'm considered a "ignorant person" for believing in what I believe in. And normally the people that are saying i'm "ignorant" are ignorant themselves.


If I'm considered lost in your eyes because I don't believe in the same thing you do, it's a little condescending, you tell me whose ignorant?

Just because people can easily point out the flaws in your religion with common logic doesn't mean they're ignorant.
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Old 03-19-09, 08:44 AM   #14
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it's paradoxical. That's twice now you left out the 'c'

and anyway, you'd have to define what you mean by paradoxical for me to argue with that.

Other than this, primitive human teachings had to have come from somewhere. Are you saying, primitive humans produced the bible? If so then wouldn't that make it extremely important regardless, and wouldn't that mean that 2,000 years ago is "primitive" and Alexander The Great was pre-primitive. Wow, he must have just been modern in a primitive world, either that or he was one heck of a monkey.

Besides... Unknown phenomena? You might as well say "everyday on earth"

and Fables? freakin' prove it....
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that is exactly why, no one knows whats going on so they make up stories so they feel better, any religion is just somones idea of our creator passes down through the generations......the fact is no one knows, and you are ignorant to think you do.
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