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Old 10-28-09, 12:32 AM   #1
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Your analogy is to vague.

Seems to me that they have a fire burning in a fire place to keep them warm and your running with a hose.. doucing there fire and killing there warmth.
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Old 10-28-09, 01:33 AM   #2
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Your analogy is to vague.

Seems to me that they have a fire burning in a fire place to keep them warm and your running with a hose.. doucing there fire and killing there warmth.




completely NOT what I said...I said the fire broke out in the lower level of the house and began to SPREAD to the upper level...

Since you want to mince words...let me make it plain...

We believe (that is, Christians) that if you don't have Jesus in your heart...you are not saved...and headed for eternal damnation in a REAL hell



God is merciful tho...and will give u a chance to accept his son Jesus...


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Old 10-28-09, 01:59 AM   #3
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ok.. I understand and 100% respect your point of view. But you will never respect a non beleivers point of view.. its there choice to not beleive... do you think your gonna save the world one non beleiver at a time? get a hobby.
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Old 10-28-09, 09:17 AM   #4
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ok.. I understand and 100% respect your point of view. But you will never respect a non beleivers point of view.. its there choice to not beleive... do you think your gonna save the world one non beleiver at a time? get a hobby.




I respect your view...but it's an error.


THis generation believes in relatives...

But there is a right path and a wrong one...

Truth is...people believe in 90% of the nonsense they believe because there is no immediate consequence...

However, even a slight deviation from the true path can ultimately lead to death...

WHich, incidentally, the bible warns will be the path taken by unbelievers who hear God's word, and reject it...

God wants to give you a future and a hope...not harm you...
What's better than that?

Being friends with the creator of the universe.




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Old 10-28-09, 03:54 PM   #5
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I respect your view...but it's an error.


THis generation believes in relatives...

But there is a right path and a wrong one...

Truth is...people believe in 90% of the nonsense they believe because there is no immediate consequence...

However, even a slight deviation from the true path can ultimately lead to death...

WHich, incidentally, the bible warns will be the path taken by unbelievers who hear God's word, and reject it...

God wants to give you a future and a hope...not harm you...
What's better than that?

Being friends with the creator of the universe.




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I see what your saying.. but error according to who? So your saying if i was to be a unbeleiver.. yet was the most kind hearted.. caring.. giving.. human helping.. human saving.. money donating.. open doors for the needy..non sinning human.. (by my own morals) i would still go to hell because i didnt beleive in god?
You make god seem like a dictator.. like.. its my way or you shall burn forever...
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Old 10-28-09, 04:36 PM   #6
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I see what your saying.. but error according to who? So your saying if i was to be a unbeleiver.. yet was the most kind hearted.. caring.. giving.. human helping.. human saving.. money donating.. open doors for the needy..non sinning human.. (by my own morals) i would still go to hell because i didnt beleive in god?
You make god seem like a dictator.. like.. its my way or you shall burn forever...



If God was a dictator...you wouldn't have a choice...but you do...

It's like a parent who raises a child...

You warn them of certain dangers...

THey have a choice...

even if they CHOOSE the "danger" path....that's their choice...

If they don't, it appears like control...like a Hobson's choice...but, there are absolutes is what I'm telling you...

Jesus is the only way to God...and the only absolute truth.



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Old 10-28-09, 05:47 PM   #7
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If God was a dictator...you wouldn't have a choice...but you do...

It's like a parent who raises a child...

You warn them of certain dangers...

THey have a choice...

even if they CHOOSE the "danger" path....that's their choice...

If they don't, it appears like control...like a Hobson's choice...but, there are absolutes is what I'm telling you...

Jesus is the only way to God...and the only absolute truth.



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what if they are not living a 'danger path' what if they are 'better humans' than some that beleive? Are they still wrong in the eyes of beleivers?

My question is: What if someone is a perfect human ( in the sense of the meaning) yet chooses not to beleive? Wil they still be walking down a danger path?
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Old 10-28-09, 04:39 AM   #8
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q ima pray for u,i was listening to td jakes the other day and it hit me,not that i support u being gay but, who is anyone to say that someone is going to hell or not thats gods choice, were all guilty of sin no ones perfect,and i respect what your trying to do.but honestly i really doubt god would have a gay prophet no dis respect.
just felt like i had to tell u that.
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Old 10-28-09, 09:14 AM   #9
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q ima pray for u,i was listening to td jakes the other day and it hit me,not that i support u being gay but, who is anyone to say that someone is going to hell or not thats gods choice, were all guilty of sin no ones perfect,and i respect what your trying to do.but honestly i really doubt god would have a gay prophet no dis respect.
just felt like i had to tell u that.



Your problem here is that you are equating what God is able to do with what you THINK I am...or what God has sustained me through.


Sorry my friend...if you are PRAYING for me...would God have a "fill in the blank" praying up to him? If you aren't GAY....you are a SOMETHING God hates...

but thanks be to GOd that he's given us his son Jesus who forgives and wipes the slate clean.

Truth is...I am called and chosen by God because that's God's will...and I am being obedient to Him and his word.

So...let your prayer be..."Father, continue to use him to do your will...Fill him with wisdom and give him the grace to represent you".


Otherwise...your judgments will be the ones you fall on. Your hypocrisy here is in thinking I'm not qualified to speak for God....WRONG...I am EXACTLY the type of person God uses...check the bible...Anyone God ever called to do anything great was a MESSED up person whom GOd chose, and subsequently changed, to do his will.

Moses = Murderer
King David = Murderer...adulterer...liar
Rahab...Prostitute...God used her to save his people when they were in flight
Solomon...Womanizer...adulterer


The list Goes on

Add 1...Tha Q...you fill in the blank....IT CAN'T STOP GOD....because with GOd...ALL THINGS are possible.

Gods ways are not OUR ways...he doesn't THINK or CHOOSE like we would.

Read 1 Samule 16 in the bible when he chose David...

No one gave him a chance but God.

Brotha...I am a child of God...and my gift is prophecy...You don't have to agree with it...You didn't give it to me...and you CAN'T take it away....But, be careful misrepresenting what God is capable of doing.

YOU wouldn't choose me...But Ha...Thank GOD that YOU are not God.






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Old 10-28-09, 01:12 PM   #10
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Yes.

God, if there is such a being, has a master plan. And it is to call upon his gay prophet to convert all the non-believers on rapverse.com.
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Old 10-28-09, 04:31 PM   #11
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God, if there is such a being, has a master plan. And it is to call upon his gay prophet to convert all the non-believers on rapverse.com.



Satan always was...and is an accuser...and a liar

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Old 10-29-09, 03:09 AM   #12
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Satan always was...and is an accuser...and a liar

Have you given your life to Jesus Christ?





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There is a christian church right near where I live, just before you enter this small little market town place. Always outside are the same people stopping me and others in the street asking that same question.

I'll tell you what I tell them every time they stop me.

I have never and will never give my life to Jesus Christ or anyone else. My life is my own and not to be given to any person or higher being.
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Old 10-31-09, 03:50 PM   #13
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Satan always was...and is an accuser...and a liar

Have you given your life to Jesus Christ?





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i have, but what does that prove? what does that accomplish? nothing other than i don't have to go to hell when i die, eventhough i think the concept of heaven and hell is dumb. i'm just makin the smartest decisions possible and takin jesus and God so serious as to think they are gonna do anything special with my life is just hopeful thinking. i dont have what it takes to use the bible to change the world or even the ideas of my friends because other than not going to hell theres not much use of believing in Jesus.
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one of a few things jesus is gonna do for you is let you be accepted by people that go to church, and if they didn't accept you prior they are dick heads. I dont wanna go to church just to chill and talk with people that believe in Jesus, whats the point of that? to help me get through my day? well, ok, but if jesus wants me to be doing things with my life and i believe that then yeah that may do something for me, but if i thought that same way about budda it'd prolly do the same thing.
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when it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter much. just believe in Jesus to not go to hell, i mean if u dont do that then you're just shrinking your possibilities after you die cuz nobody knows.
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but i'm not gonna be scared to sin when, expecially from your point of view, you sin all the damn time. so who cares, believe in jesus, gain some wisdom from the bible, and live you're life however YOU decide Jesus planned it for you, or if u talk with him Q, ask him what i should do with my life if u get the chance. thanx
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i'll pray for you, but the only thing i would pray for you is for you not to be gay and slappin Jesus in the face, but i guess you dont really care for that to happen and you're goin to heaven anyway for simply believing in Jesus, so i guess i'll just pray to pray
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Old 10-28-09, 03:26 PM   #14
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If you aren't GAY....you are a SOMETHING God hates...
huh????????? are u serious?
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Old 10-28-09, 04:33 PM   #15
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If you aren't GAY....you are a SOMETHING God hates...
huh????????? are u serious?



Yes...referring to your judgment...

If you aren't gay...

then...that doesn't put you in any better standing with God...

The point is...EVERYBODY is a "something" God hates (sin wise)...

so...Jesus is the redemptive power that transforms a life...


In other words...don't get happy cuz the world doesn't "hate" your sin as much as if someone struggles with homosexuality...

In God's eyes...ur still a sinner saved by Grace.



Thank God for that




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