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Old 10-09-03, 04:10 PM   #16
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Nas' live performances, are garbage.

no breath control whatsoever... kinda lame if you ask me.


true story...he sucked ass on the Rock the Mic tour...


while Nas tends to stay away from the typical subjects of commercial rap, he also tends to take it to far. its almost as if hes trying so hard not to be commercial that he is in fact making himself more commercial. (get it?) granted, he does have a few great CD's but i dont think that he can be classified as 'the best living'. there are simply way to many artists that are 1. underrated, or 2. are better than commercial rappers but lack the marketable qualities.
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Old 10-09-03, 04:16 PM   #17
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Like i said before theres too many different styles to say who is the best.

Oh yeah can some of ya's vote on my battle coz it's bein slept on the link is:
http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/sho...&threadid=84407

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Old 10-09-03, 07:57 PM   #18
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Best Breathing?

Did you forget about Eminem?, Talib Kweli?, Mos Def?, DMX?, Jay-Z?, I could go on and on for a while.

Nas is dope, don't get me wrong, but he's definately not the best. If Big L and Pac were still alive, then I'd consider them the best breathing.

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Old 10-09-03, 07:59 PM   #19
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blah...i ain't feelin Nas too much anymore
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Old 10-09-03, 11:03 PM   #20
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Everyone Hop Off Pac and Eminem's Dick. Most of Who Posted Before keep mentioning those two.
His Live Performances are ass, though forreal, I Mean When He Performs 'One Mic' He can't control his breath. He Is Dope And Might be One of the best, In both commercial or underground, but It Depends on how ya see it. And Word To What Dezyir Said.
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Old 10-09-03, 11:36 PM   #21
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^ exactly, theyre the 3 best in the game right now (commercially)
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Old 10-09-03, 11:41 PM   #22
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^ that was in response to DaCurses post, i didnt read the 2nd page before i posted

Whats with saying hop off pacs and eminems dick? they have talent and they deserve to be acknowledged... just becoz you might not lyk them and think they suck doesnt mean everyone else does.. im yet to see anyone right a song as meaningful or insightful as pacs, and eminems lyrics are top notch and he practically invented his own style of hip hop... which today is probably the most famous rapper alive, and unlike some other commercial rappers (50 cent, ja rule, chingy, nelly etc.) eminem actually has some skill
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Old 10-10-03, 12:54 AM   #23
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^^^^
Yup...

You can't compare when you get to such a level...the best rappers alive right now are...

Jigga
Nas
Eminem

no questions asked...if you don't like either of these three..then i feel sorry for you...cause you're missin out on true hip hop...and no, I'm not going to argue with you...if you tell me different, you're ignorant...

anyway...my pick for "best rapper if he were alive" goes to Big L...without a shadow of a doubt...the man defines illness.
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Old 10-10-03, 01:21 AM   #24
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Wogsta...the reason why nas had a better debut after biggie was b/c biggie helped him get put on and market his album along wit jayz's album. As far as Nas being the best as of now i agree. Eminem to me is weak.....he's so over played and theirs to many dick riders on his nut'z......Theirs emcees out their that are way better than nas, jay, biggie, pac and em etc etc. They paved the way for all of us, im sure someone is going to blow up and just blow us away with his skillz and style.....1


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Old 10-10-03, 03:18 AM   #25
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^ im talking about commercially, you cant count someone u dont know whos "somewhere out there" as the best... and just cos lots of people like eminem doesnt mean hes "weak"... dude, thats like saying any popular MC sucks becoz lots of people like their music.. and thats fucked up. I wouldve said Nas is the best if he continued the way illmatic was going, but his albums after that (with the exception of It Was Written & Stillmatic) havent even come close to illmatic and some of his early spark was lost... i still think hes ONE OF THE BEST but not THE BEST...

ps. I didnt count the lost tapes cos i think those songs were recorded during the illmatic days (i think)

as for jayz, you gotta admit, this guy has a crazy flow and hes a pretty good lyricist. But he couldnt take eminem on lyrically or in a battle. hes still top stuff tho

so i stand by this: the top 3 living MC's are:
Eminem
Nas
Jay-Z

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Old 10-10-03, 06:27 AM   #26
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[B im yet to see anyone right a song as meaningful or insightful as pacs, and eminems lyrics are top notch and he practically invented his own style of hip hop... which today is probably the most famous rapper alive, and unlike some other commercial rappers (50 cent, ja rule, chingy, nelly etc.) eminem actually has some skill [/B]



Eminems lyrics are not top notch... but, he does possess an uncanny ability to write seemingly perfect flows pieced together by beautiful transitions. but the well runs dry there..


everyone got caught up in the commercial marketability of Tupacs 'thug' image. regardless of what people say, i can name 10 rappers off the top of my head that possess more skill than Tupac. he wasnt revolutionary, NWA brought forth the whole 'gangsta' rap ordeal...he merely hopped on the bandwagon. seriously, youve got to ask yourself, if Tupac wasnt dead would 1. he be regarded anymore near the best of all time?, and 2. if you take away the whole 'thug' image, would anyone had even given a shit about him? the answer to that is a resounding 'No'. with the exception of a few tracks, most of his songs were derived of meanings and were either aimed at boosting his 'thug' appeal, or simply aimed at getting play on the radio. Tupac is without a doubt the most overrated rapper of all time.

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Old 10-10-03, 06:56 PM   #27
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i agree wit Y Not Eminem is in my mind beyond overrated but thats another arguement...Jay is creating poor quality music right now, the biggest hype this nigga had (with exception for the black album) is wheter or not he Sed Yao Ming in La La La. Nas is dropping hot shit still plus his career has produced more great songs than anyone else, Pac in my mind might not even touch Nas's song quality over his whole career. And as for "If were breathing" wtf kinda sense does that make, niggas aint breathing, dont ride, 1luv.
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Old 10-10-03, 07:56 PM   #28
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nas got good lyrics but the beat of his songs is different
i like alot of songs by the beat..like on the blvd. by snoop

and dre...but nas is still awesome

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Old 10-10-03, 09:28 PM   #29
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I Feel Tupac Was Known More Because Of His Physical Image.
If Biggie Was Skinny, and Tupac was Fat, Who Would Be Americas Most Relished Martyr? Tupac Had Amazing Skill For The Time Period He Was Out, And As Much As I Would Not Like To Admit It, He is Not The Best, Not Even Commercially. As Much As You Hate To Hear It, Jay-Z and Nas Are Better In The Commercial Areas. Tupac's Best Album Would Either Be All Eyez On Me or Me Against The World. On Commercial Hip Hop, Lets Make Comparisons.
vs. Aquemini
vs. ILLmatic
vs. Reasonable Doubt
vs. The Blueprint
vs. Black On Both Sides
vs. Quality
vs. StillMatic

The List Goes On, And Thats Just For Commercial Rappers. I May Not Change Opinions And Im Not Trying To Do That, But Some Opinions Are Backed Up By Minor Things, And I Doubt I Will Get Back A Decent Arguement That Tupac is The Best. Now Hold That!!!
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Old 10-10-03, 09:48 PM   #30
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.Nas Is Nice But Often Choses To Stay On The 'NY' Topic. Which After A While Gets Annoying, After Everyday We Here Him About NY And NY. He Has Done Alot Of Great Stuff Like 'Rewind' Which Was Dope. But Also Has Done Lots Of Garbage Tracks.
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