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Old 10-23-03, 09:03 PM   #1
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i would have closed the door and turned the music down when he voice came in too...


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Old 10-23-03, 11:46 PM   #2
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Don't get angry. Just be persistent and keep bringing it up. After class or in a relative 'debate' or discussion.

Then again it is a catholic school. And the teachers are in general usually more close minded.

How old is she? How religious is she?

I'd keep on trying to reason with her. But only to a certain point. Then i'd break it off by saying "How can i respect and therefore learn from someone who is...."...

Of course, you can learn from someone who is close minded, stubborn in beliefs and all that. But that isn't the point now, is it?..

But also you can see where she is coming from. A catholic school teacher. Female. And this man is using a woman's vagina and the woman herself as a metaphor for life. Of course we understand it. And appreciate the meaning. That part of it is in fact the opposite of what she is thinking. But with the stigma attached to Hip-Hop. From the countless lyrics and videos of many rappers in the mainstream. And then to hear that. It's easy to understand. Especially as she doesn't listen to hip-hop. But especially cos she doesn't know the characteristics of the artist.

Maybe you could enlighten her on who he is. And some of his other work. That he is in a sense the 'brighter' side of Hip-Hop within the context she sees it.
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Old 10-24-03, 01:02 AM   #3
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Lol, yall care to much bout what other people think.
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Old 10-24-03, 09:53 AM   #4
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Muh, don't be pussy! LoL, joking.

Remember the movie "Finding Forester", when Jamal (sp?) argues with the professor, who is quite a bitter fellow, in front of the whole class? Correcting him on his use of the word “farther”, how it should have actually been “further”? Then eventually the Professor kicks Jamal out of the class, for the sole reason Jamal embarrassed the professor with the fact he was right.

Well, personally I would have gone to that extent. I would not have shut up until I made her realize that not everything she believes is right. The fact that she is a teacher and is unwilling to accept another person’s ideas is absurd. She’s a teacher, she is suppose to teach a certain curriculum, not try to change students mind to believe in her own beliefs. She is suppose to let a student find their own beliefs, and if she doesn’t let them, and other teachers don’t let students do so, the world will start to be the same. Everyone will have the same thoughts and eventually the same mind. Soon enough people will start to dress the same and act the same. “Peace” will come to rule the world. Some may think this would be a great thing, the idea of ‘complete peace’, but its not. The world needs difference, that’s the only way anything gets done. If no one disagrees than nothing will change, the way of life will become complete routine, even more then it is now. Eventually the world will stop, for the simple fact every single person is in a traffic jam, and at the beginning of each jam will be two or three cars with drivers ‘waiting for the other car to go’, and no one will go ahead until the other goes...something which will never happen. So in the end they all starve and die in their cars.
Maybe that’s a bit farfetched and maybe I’m getting ahead of myself, but everything up to the traffic jam part could very well be true.

MuhThugga, if you would, honestly, print this out and give it to her, tell her what its in response to. Then tell her if she wishes to talk further to contact me at bruklor@hotmail.com. I’m not going to just go off and yell at her or anything, just to talk about the topic more.

-Muh, I am actually serious, and if you do actually do it, obviously you might want to remove your nickname, or she might jump on that too = /
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Old 10-24-03, 10:13 AM   #5
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I did a little of catholic school in my time...but I never
ever let it do me...never got mollested...yeaaaa
...maybe I wasnt good enough for that dirty fucks
hands but I love you jesus save me...

as for the teachers theyr much older for the most part and
definately set in their ways...once thay have thier misguided
view or story they stick to it and choose not to acknbowledge
anything you could do to shed light upon the topic....at least
she didnt try to hit your fingers with a big ruler or throw
an eraser at your head...that wouldnt be nice and if that
happened id get kick outta school if I was you muhthugga...

but as for aesop lyrics on daylight which is oone of his best
songs ever the the content...err yes...they dont degrade
women...they actually show respect for women and
talk shit on asshole boyfriends...now if she heard the
night light lyrics she might have really fliped on you

"lifes not a bitch lifes a biaaatchhh....who keeps the villagers
circling the marketplace out searching for the g spot....
maybe she didnt think yall shared any similar interest...
or maybe your just an asshole...or maybe im just an asshole"
~Aesop Rock - Night Light~

both versions of the lyrics for the songs explain
a lot about people and the word bitch wasnt used
in a degrading way...shes just stupid man...

im guessing the teachers in her mid fifties...closeminded...
anyhow if you know baseball well you cant toss it through
closed windows...well you can but its not the greatest thing
in the end...unless you really hate the person and can get
away with it before someone noticing....
yeaaaaaa.........I ruined christmas.....yeaaaaaaaa
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Old 10-24-03, 11:25 AM   #6
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And if nothing stated above works. Spit on her and tell her Purgatory isn't even in the fuckin Bible.
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Old 10-24-03, 12:15 PM   #7
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lmao @ Lethargic.....

I was going to talk to her today about it since I have a lot of free periods.....but....and this is my luck in full swing..... she took the day off......
Thanks Bruk....I was thinking of doing just that...printing this topic out and let her read it.....I'll definitely talk to her about it.....

On a brighter side of things.....I saw an article in the Newspaper on the Aesop Rock/ Murs/ Mr Lif concert I'm going to on Wednesday
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Old 10-24-03, 02:11 PM   #8
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blow her mind, play something like Fair Xchange By 2pac or All About U..
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Old 10-24-03, 09:15 PM   #9
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^What would that do? ...Just prove her point? Lmao
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Old 10-24-03, 11:56 PM   #10
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^^I just ignored his comment, Bruk......
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Old 10-25-03, 11:23 PM   #11
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lol. . Play some big tymers why don'tcha!?! Retards. .

Seriously. . Don't let stupid people get on your nerves. . Just laugh at their ways and continue to think that you are the perfect being. . It works for me!
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Old 10-26-03, 05:20 AM   #12
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different music for different people; maybe she personally interprets aesop rock as a retard who raps about his cars, jewels & bitches. Just cos she doesnt realise what the hell he's talking about doesnt mean shes right. The best thing to do would to just ignore her - or ask her a question like "well then what kind of music do YOU listen to?" and if she says some shit about pop music etc. u can easily counter it by saying "i think using a woman as a metaphor for life is much more meaningful and creative than singing about how music wants to make u dance, despite the coarse language." you can show her that aesop is easily one of the most meaningful musical artists that has ever lived. its all about examples
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Old 10-26-03, 09:47 AM   #13
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play her no regrets instead and if she still dont listen talk to the wall in front of the class & when she asks what yo doin say the wall is open minded
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Old 10-26-03, 10:41 AM   #14
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^ lol. the wall is open minded, thats classic

but if he did that in a catholic school he would probabley be beat with a ruler
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Old 10-26-03, 01:59 PM   #15
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^^Metal - edged ones suck.......
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