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Old 11-12-03, 08:10 PM   #16
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I will hold off comments not associated with jessica lynch, you all know where I stand on the topic of war and politics. Jessica is no hero, D-force and the Iraqi that helped are the true heros. I am not suggesting she should not be welcomed home with open arms, but the media hype really did our true heros no justice. ANYONE WITH AN OUNCE OF INTELLEGENCE SHOULD UNDERSTAND OUR REASONS FOR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS WAR OR ANY OTHER IN THAT REGION. COMPASSION DOES NOT FIGHT INHUMANITY, IT NEVER HAS OR EVER WILL. EVERY GREAT PEACEFULL NATION THAT HAS THRIVED IN THIS WORLD HAS DONE SO BY THE PRESSENCE OF A STRONG FIGHTING FORCE. CHILDREN REALLY NEED TO LEARN MORE WHEN IT COMES TO HISOTRY AND THE INFLUENCE OF COMUNISIM OR OTHER TYRANICAL RULE. YOU KIDS REALLY HUMOR ME....
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Old 11-12-03, 08:50 PM   #17
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Splitsoul - One would think training for war and actual war are two different things.

I know this guy who was highly trained in kick boxing. This other woman who had similar high level 'tranining'.

We got into a bit of a fight. The guy froze up and shit himself. Other people who had no where near the training he had didn't. And they weren't necessarily 'experienced' in fighting either.

Training can only do so much, usually.



Bounce - So the tyranny of anti-communism and what not is right. As you need to deal with the 'greater evil with a 'lesser' yet to an extent still parallel evil? I guess that's what the modern world has 'evolved' into...or expanded even...

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Old 11-12-03, 08:59 PM   #18
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I'm still surprised at the public's reaction on America's "great failure" in Iraq. We (collectively) act as if our country had ever been in a predicament similar to the one we faced with Iraq. One goal: the deliberate death of an elite group of leaders. It's not quite as easy as you foolios think.

I'd be interested, Bounce (& Varentao, for that matter) in who you would support to oust Bush - amongst Democratic frontrunners. . I'm with the Edwards camp.
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Old 11-12-03, 09:38 PM   #19
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That girl talks like shes all fucked up and crazy she has like an accent it's wierd
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Old 11-12-03, 09:46 PM   #20
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^your judging her by her accent?? After all these Facts here, you judge her by an accent. Shows how ignorant some people are
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Old 11-12-03, 10:15 PM   #21
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nah i'm jus' sayin she talks all crazy i neva said anything about her not being a HERO or a brave women that honors our country Cause she went through some tough shit i know that and i disagree wit tha people that don't like her and stuff wether she's a hero or not she went through some pretty tough shit that none of us will probably neva see
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Old 11-12-03, 11:30 PM   #22
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Anyone watch 60 Minutes on Sunday? The real hero would probably be Patrick Miller.. A summary of the story:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003...ain582354.shtml


My opinion on this is that the Bush administration used Lynch to direct the public opinion away from the reality of the war in Iraq. We were told Saddam had chemical and possibly nuclear weapons and we needed to disarm him now. The war has been over for 6 months now and WMDs still has not been found. So to make the American people feel better for deaths of over 300 soldiers who have died with more dying daily, we have Lynch, the sweet, young, white American girl that a large majority of American people will identify with and feel sorry for, being beaten up and brutalized by the evil Iraqi soldiers of Saddam's army. Why don't we see more coverage about Miller, Johnson, and the other POWs that were captured? Because Lynch's would have more an effect on the people.
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Old 11-13-03, 12:11 AM   #23
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^^ thats good 411 ...........but its all bullshit an i hate lynch wit a passion an i hate bush so fuk the government
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Old 11-13-03, 08:50 AM   #24
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^^ thats good 411 ...........but its all bullshit an i hate lynch wit a passion an i hate bush so fuk the government


Its not her fault she got all the publicity. She was kind of getting raped at the time she made her media debut...
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Old 11-13-03, 08:51 AM   #25
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Postman = Totally Wrong. I don't care what the Television/Tabloids say. I know the truth. Why? My brother is a Former Force Recon Sniper in the Marine Corps. He was involved in the Jessica Lynch rescue. If you want to know what happened, I'll be more then obliged to tell you.

First off, Jessica Lynch was not the driver. It was a white American Male. They lost their convoy and took a wrong turn. While they were trying to find their way out....the jackass driver pulled over for an Iraqi police officer. The police officers and some Iraqi soldiers ambushed them. Most were killed instantly, they only took 4 hostages. The black girl, JL, and 2 guys. The only two people to fire their weapons(indicated by burn marks on their hands) were one of the guys and the black girl. Neither of them killed one single Iraqi soldier. Jessica Lynch cowered in fear the entire time. The other guy apparently surrendered instantly. You saw a few of them on the news and shit like that. After that broadcast...the two men were executed. The black girl was cut in half and disemboweled. They drug her corpse all over the streets. As for Jessica Lynch...the last thing she was treated like, was royalty. Inside the hospital, she was raped multiple times. She only had one arm broken, but her left leg and right ankle were broken. My brother was a part of one of two 2-man sniper teams on the roof of some local buildings by the hospital. Apparently the Television even got the rescue operation all fucked up. They were there on their sniper posts for support. The Army Rangers secured a perimeter of the building and Delta Force ran in to rescue here. He said they were in and out of the building in less then 7 minutes. It pissed him off extremely because she was built up to be some hero when she isn't. It also pissed him off, because he said, "Had that been a man inside that fuckin hospital, these fuckin Robewiggers wouldn't have sent in a fuckin pissant to go save him."

Apparently Robewiggers = Government politicians. I'm assuming from the days of old where they wore those big ass white hair wigs, but where the robe part came from...not sure.


Why for some reason do I not believe you?...
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Old 11-13-03, 11:27 AM   #26
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Kalvin hit the nail on the head.
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Old 11-13-03, 02:29 PM   #27
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Why for some reason do I not believe you?...


Could it be because you're a jackass and the last time we butted heads I made you out to look like a retard? If not...

Then if you want I'll be glad to give you his full name, unit number, military ID number, etc....none of it is classified anymore.

If you want I could post a picture of his ass for you too, would that make you more inclined to open your eyes and shut your mouth?
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Anyone notice the u.s.a hates terrorists, but these people in the Middle East (whom are referred to as terrorists)like the Al Qaeda, are trying to be free of Western Influence, much in the same way as America was trying to get rid of Great Britain? If we never got involved with them in the first place, we wouldn't be in this predicament, but america loves to gain more power. Over here, it's terrorism, over there its Independance from western influence. I think...
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Old 11-13-03, 04:37 PM   #29
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Could it be because you're a jackass and the last time we butted heads I made you out to look like a retard? If not...

Then if you want I'll be glad to give you his full name, unit number, military ID number, etc....none of it is classified anymore.

If you want I could post a picture of his ass for you too, would that make you more inclined to open your eyes and shut your mouth?


I am your god. Its been proved.

So, apperently a woman was cut in half? Why haven't we even heard about this rumour?
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Old 11-13-03, 06:27 PM   #30
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My God eh? interesting. Not quite though.

Anyway, the black woman was severed from the waist down. Her upper half/insides drug across the desert. Why didn't you hear that JL never fired once? That she pulled over for Iraqi police officers. It's called biased media...dipshit.

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