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Old 10-28-09, 04:59 PM   #31
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Alright we're almost through christian boot camp

now you need to convince us that souls exist, that it's possible to think with your heart, that god created everything including evil but is somehow eternally loving, and that people in modern times who cannot see Jesus should still believe that Jesus is God in human flesh even though a percent of people who literally did see Jesus in the flesh did not believe he was God in human flesh.

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lol...well, Im about to go read from these two new books I got from Borders today...great questions...and we'll be here forever answering them


OH...BTW...people, there's a difference between original sin "that is man's inherent separation from God by our sinful human nature"...and someone who practices sin...

You know...sin without resolve...


I don't practice sin...That's what qualifies anyone to be a spokesman for God...

#1...God has to call you...then choose you based on

#2...Your availability and willingness to serve him

#3...willingness to sacrifice...

I'm living under God's grace baby.

Don't hate...you can have joy and peace too...It comes through Jesus.

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Old 10-28-09, 05:17 PM   #32
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You have the mind of a weak child.
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Old 10-28-09, 05:47 PM   #33
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If God was a dictator...you wouldn't have a choice...but you do...

It's like a parent who raises a child...

You warn them of certain dangers...

THey have a choice...

even if they CHOOSE the "danger" path....that's their choice...

If they don't, it appears like control...like a Hobson's choice...but, there are absolutes is what I'm telling you...

Jesus is the only way to God...and the only absolute truth.



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what if they are not living a 'danger path' what if they are 'better humans' than some that beleive? Are they still wrong in the eyes of beleivers?

My question is: What if someone is a perfect human ( in the sense of the meaning) yet chooses not to beleive? Wil they still be walking down a danger path?
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Old 10-28-09, 05:50 PM   #34
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Also...what are you all going to say to God on the day of judgment?

Scuse me God...but, the reason I didn't believe you, or accept Jesus in my heart is cuz the person who told me about you was Gay...

or smoked cigarettes

or told a lie

or cursed


or fornicated?


HUH?

You think God is going to give you a pass like "Yes my child...you may enter heaven now because even though the prophet I sent you was a sinner (like EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS), you had a tough time looking past that"?????

NO.

Stop making excuses.


Salvation is a personal decision...

No one can pray you into heaven...and what someone ELSE does doesn't detract from your responsibilities to accept Jesus and love God...IF you choose to have eternal life and meaning in your present life.




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Ive noticed in other posts.. and correct me if Im wrong ( and I mean no disrespect with this) but your gay right? You lick the penis of another man (im not try na be funny, just breaking it down to the reality of what being gay means)
So who are you to try off load your 'rightous path' to otheres when your not living perfect yourself?

or is it as simple as you think the more people your convert and 'try save' the more you will be forgiven for your sins?

Im not tryna make fun of you, and I respect that you choose to be gay.. its just makes everything you say one big oxymoron.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:07 PM   #35
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no no no, he clearly spoke about sacrifices.

he is giving up man's penis for god's penis.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:07 PM   #36
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Hey rats, let me ask you something.

You watch porn right? Or no? You jack off right? You lust for women right? Hopefully not men. what about lie? You lie too? Have you ever hated someone? If the answer is yes, than you committed more sins than tha q is committing. He's gay, yes hes sinning. But who doesn't sin? I'm studying to become a Pastor. I love reading the Bible. Instead of just listening to christian music alone, i listen to sermons all day. I even write articles based ont he bible. but wait. I still sin. I at times can't resist watching porn. But i'm learning to stop watching that crap. I use to watch that crap every day etc.. now like every few months whenever I become weak? Yet, I received an amazingly strong calling to become a Pastor. Why would God choose me to become a Pastor even though I commit that sin? I still lie once in a while, i hate that I do lie but thats a sin too isn't it? I sin prolly everyday. Who doesn't? Everyone sins. You most likely sin more than Q alone. But anyway back to the subject. Even though I sin so much, God still chose me to lead a church and become a pastor? Is that possible? Yes. God does not see you for who you were, or who you are. God see's you for what you will become. So yes he's gay. But so, because of that he can't try his best to spread the word of God?!? Its like you saying some rappers are horrible. Yet you're horrible yourself. Do you have the right to judge others when you can't even do that specific things yourself? Don't hate because hes trying to do what he believes in and save others. You can continually hate what hes doing and try to put him down. But it will never stop him, me, or any other Christian that wants to spread the word of God. It comes with the job. But yeah Gay is against the Bible. But so is lying, sex before marriage etc.. We all sin. If we can't minister because we sin, than no one in the world should even think of ministering because everyoen is a sinner.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:11 PM   #37
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smoking cigarettes is a sin? damn....
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Old 10-28-09, 06:28 PM   #38
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Notice how Christians always make exceptions to the rules and change the word of their God so that they can try and recruit more people to their little cults?

Stupid cunts.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:44 PM   #39
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lol make exception's to rules? So someone that sins can't minister? If you are going to constantly sin purposely than of course you can't minister. You can't preach what you dont do. So what word did I change? please explain.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:51 PM   #40
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My question is this, if I do come before God when I die, and never accepted him into my heart but never let the devil take my heart. Then what happens?

Is God such a heartless being that if Adam, or Rats, or I were to die today but we were stand up citizens he would condemn us to hell for not saying that he is my God?

I live my life according to the morals (and common believes) set forth by law, not by a bible, even if they do happen to be one in the same.

Will God reject me because I don't go to church? or don't say God bless you at every sneeze, but my heart is pure in almost every aspect of Grand Sin? (not saying mine is.)

The thing I dislike about Christianity most is that there is a belief that God will condemn a man who doesn't believe in him but is probably the most upstanding citizen in the world the same he would condemn a Mass Murderer.

That right there just doesn't sit right with me.
Sure we all sin in our own way, and "in God's eyes no sin is greater than other" but are you telling me if i accept Jesus if i'm a murderer i can repent, but If premarital sex is my worst sin and I die i can't repent? If i don't say Jesus is my God now?

Why can't he look at me when I'm standing before him and Judge me on how I lived on my own an never "denied" as if I believed wholeheartedly and live the exact same life.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:53 PM   #41
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If you're a true fundamentalist you would know that a gay man won't be accepted into the kingdom of heaven.

Oh yeah, God didn't chose you to be a minister, you made the conscious decision to become one yourself. Quit being oblivious to reality.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:56 PM   #42
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q,you dont practice sin,bro your gay?????
im not judging u at all, i dont judge anyone, thats up to god im not saying your going to hell for being gay im saying god decides that..i know david and them were messed up, and were all guilty of sin.but your way of living has to line up with the word of god your either progressing or your backsliding of course we all slip up,but by being gay consistantly, its like your spitting in jesus's face when hes on the cross.im not saying i dont mess up i repent when i do slip up,but dont take gods grace for granted.and walk all over it.but ur trying to justify yourself by saying david and them were messed up so you can practice homosexualty
but i dont know your life style you could be trying to overcome your struggle,
but honestly i pray for your struggle with homosexuality and that u overcome it.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:58 PM   #43
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^Why though? No homo but what is so sinful about being Gay?

Those judgments are what kill Christianity for me. Why does Q being gay mean he wouldn't make it into heaven if he still accepts God into his heart?
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Old 10-28-09, 07:00 PM   #44
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Kidd..

I stated this earlier..

Christians worship an imaginary being that bases it's decisions based upon jealousy. First off, jealousy is not a God-like feature, so I find it sort of amusing really. Secondly, think about all the great non christian people in the world that haven't taken God into their hearts or have worshiped Jesus and have done so much for others with either charity work or doing whatever they can to help out people in need. They're going to get denied access to Heaven? That God is just a jealous cunt, that's all it is. Keep following your jealous cunt, I hope things go well.
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Old 10-28-09, 07:02 PM   #45
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q,you dont practice sin,bro your gay?????
im not judging u at all, i dont judge anyone, thats up to god im not saying your going to hell for being gay im saying god decides that..i know david and them were messed up, and were all guilty of sin.but your way of living has to line up with the word of god your either progressing or your backsliding of course we all slip up,but by being gay consistantly, its like your spitting in jesus's face when hes on the cross.im not saying i dont mess up i repent when i do slip up,but dont take gods grace for granted.and walk all over it.but ur trying to justify yourself by saying david and them were messed up so you can practice homosexualty
but i dont know your life style you could be trying to overcome your struggle,
but honestly i pray for your struggle with homosexuality and that u overcome it.


Sorry Tha Q you're not getting into heaven because you were born with the homosexuality gene. You should have known to live the life I wanted you to and lived a life that was untrue to who you are, for this, you're going to hell.

See how fucking stupid your religion is? For fuck sakes, grow up.
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