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09-01-08, 02:57 PM | #31 | |||||||
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it makes no sense to vote for McCain, im sorry... his first choice of judgment and he picks the most inexperienced woman in the world... she governs in the most corrupt state in the country, she is under investigation for corruption (which she will probably get a pass on even though it IS corrupt), she has no foreign policy experience, no national experience whether it be with legistlation, economy, Nothing... she was a governor for under 2 years, with half of that time being pregnant... not to say that that would fully impede her ability to govern, but its almost a lack of judgment to get pregnant when you're suppose to be running a state, cuz there comes a point where u can hardly walk....
and to top it all off her 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant, and many speculate its longer than that, which would mean she was pregnant at 16... obviously her mom didnt Want her having sex, didnt want it to be Unprotected if she did (unless shes that much of a religous kook), and didnt want her having kids this young... how can u be expected to help Lead and run a country when u cant keep your children in check... Oh good old Republican Family Values she was chosen for 2 reasons, which makes mccain a total sell out: she's young, and she's a woman too bad her inexperience makes her a poor choice to take over the country if, u know, 73 year old McCain dies... u know the McCain who has/had cancer, and refuses to release his medical file and physicals to the public.. and too bad shes basically against every issue most women agree with: she's pro-life, pro-guns, pro-war, basically pro Everything women are Anti... jesus, im more of a feminist than she is.... and yes, i only ranted on Palin, but McCain can have a few words too: he's a hot head and a grumpy old man.... there are countless times during congress and meetings where he's Exploded when people dont agree with him... doesnt sound like the kind of diplomat i want... oh and, its great he was a POW and he survived, makes him a hero... too bad he told the people who took him captive Everything... honestly, everyone says ohhh he's an American hero, should be well respected... no hes not, its a sad situtation that he was captured for all that time but when you give them more than ur name and rank u are no longer a Hero.... that doesnt sound like the type of soldier i want, doesnt sound like the type of Commander-in-Chief I want....
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09-02-08, 03:28 PM | #32 | |||||
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Okay, so Palin sucks and McCain is old. You're right, I too choose my votes on who's vice president I like more. Fuck who's policies I agree with. If you want to play that game you should also remember that Biden cheated in law school and got kicked out. All of that came out when he ran for president a long ass time ago. So, while Palin is being investigated for being dishonest, it's already been proven that Biden is dishonest. Luckily, I don't really give two shits about the VP's, so I'm not transferring Biden's downfalls to Obama. I just don't agree with Obama's policies (you know, the guy who's actually running and not the VP), so I'm not voting for him. |
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09-02-08, 03:35 PM | #33 | |||||||||
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dude, who the fuck DOESN'T cheat in college?
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09-02-08, 03:44 PM | #34 | |||||
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All of the capital isn't being brought in from people working overseas. Some is, but not all -- not even most. I agree people need jobs and while unemployment has risen slightly, the natural unemployment rate should be about 5%, and in a couple of months that's where I expect it to go back to. There are plenty of jobs right now, and the unemployment rate isn't high relative to where it has been in the past (25% during The Great Depression, etc.). I'm not really even talking about the big CEO's and shit, the people ranking in the top 1-2% of the population when it comes to income. I'm talking about your middle to upper-middle class people, mostly. There's way more of them then there are extremely rich people. I can't vote for somebody who, in a capitalistic economy, is going to tax the shit out of people when they start businesses, create jobs, and generate capital, so that it can be transferred down to the low income people (the people who aren't creating jobs and generating capital). Taxes as a whole are a socialist concept, but drastically raising them is socialist and it's bullshit. Obama may win this election because there's a lot more bottom feeders in this country then are providers, but if the taxes do get raised by a lot you're going to see the people generating capital leaving or jumping through every loophole possible to avoid paying as much taxes as they're supposed to. I know you know what you're talking about, so I'm hoping you can at least understand why I'm not down to ride with Obama's tax policies. I didn't make this thread to beef with anybody, I just wanted to see if I was the only person here planning to vote for McCain. Right now it's looking like I'm standing alone, so oh well hahaha. |
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09-02-08, 03:47 PM | #35 | |||||
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Umm, me? And I love how you belittle Biden's cheating. Smooth tactic. |
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09-02-08, 03:54 PM | #36 | ||||||
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yeah, i misunderstood you at first..but i got you now..very valid points too. Im with obama....but i definately don't disagree with your decision to go with mccain. and you know me mime..it's never anything personal between us. and i don't understand why other people take politics so personally.....BUSH IS LEAVING....that's all that really fucking matters at this point
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09-02-08, 04:01 PM | #37 | ||||||
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I don't either.
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09-02-08, 04:05 PM | #38 | |||||||||
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some valid points. but....really, why would Obama tax higher on people who are gerneating revune? if anything he'll tax the corpartions more, not the small end business's. N by taking money and giving it back to the 'bottom feeders' more money will be spend on things, pushing the value of the dollar back up. hopefully lowering costs of things. i see your points, and i was for Mccain in 2000. So i'm not a Mccain hater, but after he went full blown Republican, he sure did loose his way
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09-02-08, 05:36 PM | #39 | |||||
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yeah, hes going to tax the big buisness companies.. and going to tax less on the starting companies.. was stated on the dem convention.
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09-02-08, 05:37 PM | #40 | ||||
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oh and if you noticed.. about only 1-3 people on this site would vote for mcain.. and just about everyone else wants obama.. hmm.. guessing samething with everyone else.. no one wants republicans..
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09-02-08, 06:12 PM | #41 | |||||
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I don't know why Obama would tax the shit out of people who are generating capital -- that's been my whole point. And the economy doesn't work like that. Giving bottom feeders unearned money won't push the value of the dollar up, and it definitely won't lower the cost of anything. Who taught you macroeconomics? Name one thing that you feel is priced too high and I'll explain why it's priced that high in 1-2 sentences max. Last edited by Mimesis : 09-02-08 at 06:49 PM. |
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09-02-08, 06:15 PM | #42 | |||||
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Your guess is wrong, as the polls have shown that Obama and McCain are extremely close. If you're seriously suggesting that the rapverse.com community is a representative sample of the entire population, then you should really consider never talking about politics again. |
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09-02-08, 06:24 PM | #43 | |||||
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Yeah, I got you man. I was more directing that last bit to the people who are coming in here like voting for McCain makes zero sense whatsoever, when that's not the case at all. Bush's incompetent ass is leaving which is definitely a good thing, but at least he kept taxes down, hahaha. Oh, and for those of you who think Bush gave tax cuts to the rich, you should really double check your figures because that hasn't been the case. In fact, if anybody would like to see the statistics behind who actually received the tax breaks, let me know and I'll post up the figures tomorrow. "Bush's tax cuts for the rich" has been political bullshit the entire time, as the facts suggest something completely different. |
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09-02-08, 06:50 PM | #44 | |||
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McCain reads from teleprompters and scripts that he doesn't write about the economy because he doesn't know shit about the economy and he willingly admitted that.
so comparing Obama to McCain on anything that involves the economy is comparing (This Is My Shitty Plan) to (This Is The Plan I Don't Quite Understand, But Someone Who Does In My Campaign Wrote It And I Support It)
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obama! O-B-A-M-A! We got this
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