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Old 01-14-09, 01:05 PM   #31
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Shut the fuck you little bitch, just because it's too fucking hard to answer you pussy out.

I LOVE philosophy ya assuming mother fucker

DOES THE UNIVERSE STRETCH OUT TO INFINITY OR DOES IT HAVE A POINT IN WHICH YOU CAN TRAVEL NO FURTHER, IS IT INFINITE OR FINITE YA DUMB ASS QUESTION DODGING I THINK IM A PHILOSOPHER BUT IM JUST A STONER WITH BIG VOCAB AND NO INTELLIGENCE

fucking little bitch. Can't even answer the question so he disses me ahahaha

I BET YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WTF DIMETHYLTRYPTAMINE IS

some philosopher you are ya fucking moron, i've already discovered the secret to God being inside of us from studying dimethyltryptamine and dreams

I've written so many fucking philosophical reports and papers and I got 97% in college in my philosophy class, NINETY SEVEN WTF DID YOU GET PUNK

so if you wanna question dodge cuz you're a fucking pussy then for it

but dont you EVER, EVER think for a second you have a greater knowledge and understanding of philosophy, psychology, or epistemology then I do, and say i'm not a philosopher.

I proved you had no conclusions to my questions that could be deemed final or 100% correct.

You think the fucking answer to the question of what our capacity of knowledge is, is WHATEVER WE ARE ABLE TO REMEMBER!?

YOU FUCKING IDIOT. I'm not asking how much knowledge are we going to have before we do, i'm asking how much fucking knowledge is a human able to obtain. How much information can our brain store. AND GUESS WHAT, SHIT YOU DON'T REMEMBER IS STILL STORED IN THE BRAIN, AND IT STILL AFFECTS US SUBCONCIOUSLY

once you fucking learn something it stays with you and influences you forever. You obviously know NOTHING of that cuz you have no fucking idea about the subconcious. You have no fucking idea about the beings that exist within your subconcious and communicate with you everynight during heavyrem. You have no fucking clue about the secrets to the universe as I do because i've studied Terrence Mckenna, listened to his seminars, and i've read Dr. Rick Strassmans book. You should too since you have no fucking life. The spirit molecule, based off the clinical studies performed by Strasman under the supervision of the university of new mexico.

AND ILL CRUSH YOU ANY FUCKING TIME YOU WANNA CALL ME OUT ON NOT BEING A PHILOSOPHER AGAIN

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Baph, its shit like this....n no hate towards JTR...he knows i'm cool with him, is what makes these threads completely filled with garbage


becuase it goes from a debate, and question...to a pussy fit about who thinks they know more about school

like, if we all wanted to list credentials, im sure we can....

but its not like 2v was stating that he knew more than anyone else, he just asked a question...and people gotta turn threads into bitch matches

but word
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Old 01-15-09, 09:33 AM   #32
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everyone who doesnt have friends is a loser.
2v doesn't have friends.

solve it rofl
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Old 01-15-09, 09:52 AM   #33
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There's no right answer to this, no matter how you take it.

This Sentence Is False, - Your telling me that the sentence your speaking of is totally untrue therefore in no way could I believe it.
And I'm Lying To You - In context, if you said this to someone the simple answer is that even though you told me the sentence was false, by directly telling me your a liar afterward then the sentence would be true.

But, if you take the double speak into account then it becomes a paradox which can't technically be solved because you could never make everyone believe that your telling the truth if your a liar.
No matter how hard you try to convince people that there is a definite answer someone will always debate it because you've directly told them that you can't be trusted.

There is no answer to questions like this, its like the one about going into the past and killing your grandfather, would you exist?
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Old 01-15-09, 12:52 PM   #34
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Old 01-15-09, 03:14 PM   #35
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LOL Why is that? ha
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Old 01-15-09, 06:22 PM   #36
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Once again you're taking baphomet's approach, LM- and trying to split up the comma.

Here, let me simplify it for you:

"This sentence is not true."

I don't need to add the part "and I'm lying to you."

Let me break it down guys, you have to talk about language itself, if you're going to even coherently explain your way out of the liar sentence. You have to re-fix language, to get out of the paradox. You don't have to suggest it's absurd as going into the past or future, lol.
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Old 01-15-09, 06:46 PM   #37
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everyone who doesnt have friends is a loser.
2v doesn't have friends.

solve it rofl

2v is a loser.......................fucking right... bout time
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Old 01-15-09, 07:13 PM   #38
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Right and that equation would hold water if "everyone who doesn't have friends is a loser" was true.

Sadly it's not true.

And "2v doesn't have friends" is neither true nor false. Who knows? certainly not you two retards.
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Old 01-15-09, 07:16 PM   #39
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I'm simply stating my belief dude.

I believe there is no definite answer to any question that's based on a person's morals.
If your particular morals are that your a habitual liar.
You could still find someone who says your honest.

Therefore, any question that presents a paradox or anything of the sort. Has two answers, the sentence could be true that your lying, or it could be true that that sentence is false.

Either way there's no way to definitely solve the riddle.
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Old 01-15-09, 07:34 PM   #40
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The pessimistic approach is to claim that there is no solution to the riddle.

The optimistic approach is to blame language.

For example, the common belief in language is that language is either true or false, especially statements. Saul Kripke declared that there is true, false, and (NEITHER), claiming that the liar paradox was neither true nor false, and that the sentence is at its most basic form supposed to be true or false, but by having a direct subject it would be taken to a higher level of truth or a lower level of falsity, whereas it remains at the same level due to the paradox, and is neither true nor false. therefore (neither) statements exist.

It's an optimistic view of language but there are other views also. lol.

thanks for your insight LM.
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Old 01-15-09, 07:37 PM   #41
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lol I'm not optimistic or pessimistic about the false or truth of the subject really.
I just believe that the neither equation doesn't factor in.


I see it as in whatever context you say the sentence, the falsity of it or the truth would be revealed. To say the sentence with no context or purpose other than to just say the sentence is ludicrous to me in itself.

But Thanks for making me think. lol
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Old 01-16-09, 10:44 AM   #42
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Baph, its shit like this....n no hate towards JTR...he knows i'm cool with him, is what makes these threads completely filled with garbage


becuase it goes from a debate, and question...to a pussy fit about who thinks they know more about school

like, if we all wanted to list credentials, im sure we can....

but its not like 2v was stating that he knew more than anyone else, he just asked a question...and people gotta turn threads into bitch matches

but word


he said i wasn't a philosopher

anyone who has the nerve to call me a philosopher aint gonna get a bitch fit they're gonna get me coming at them full force and defending myself as a philosopher.

He also dodged my questions, by saying they weren't worth time because I wasn't a philosopher.

So I proved that I am, and that I have a large knowledge on philosophy

So don't assume or judge, because you might be wrong...

oh yea, you're wrong

and what's the point of just answering his questions, there is no solution to the riddle as I already stated homie, I answered his question nicely and politely and he went on to insult me by saying i wasnt a philosopher and wouldnt answer some questions of mine when we got into the conversation

you jump too soon, take a step back, you shouldn't have jumped that direction.

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Believe what you want josh, I never take back any remarks I make, ever.
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JTR


re-read what i post...just try and re-read it ONE more time


i said that you 2 should stop BITCHING like TEN year olds and just answer the fucking question


you 2 argue about who has more knowledge, knowledge is gained by LISTENING...not TALKING


but hey

what if i take two steps forward and than a step back, i'll do the hokey pokey and turn myself around...and thats what its all about

YYYYAAAYYY
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^ this nigga wrote Yayy..
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